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Oh wow. Off-topic but quite refreshing to see a site not absolutely plastered in AI posts
by tetris11 3mo ago
Oh wow. Off-topic but quite refreshing to see a site not absolutely plastered in AI posts
- grebc 3mo agoHN is increasingly bot central, I kind of assume 80% of the respondents are artificial. Lobsters still got a pulse, largely.
- rickcarlino 3mo agoInvitation-only is the future of online communities. Lobsters still has a pulse because you need to know someone to get in and it’s a bad look if you invite annoying people.
- OutOfHere 3mo agoThat's nonsense wrt invitation-only being the future. I can equally say that free speech is the future. For comparison, Reddit does very well without being invitation only.
- Xeronate 3mo agoreddit does okay from a profit standpoint. reddit does terribly from a bot or even a good community standpoint.
- inigyou 3mo agoReddit is literally the dead internet right now. It's also not open access. You have to run an invisible tightrope so its algorithms won't automatically shadowban you and then you have to run a barely visible tightrope to get enough karma to not have your posts automatically removed from every subreddit.
- inigyou 3mo agoAlso, Reddit now requires you to verify your ID with Persona.
- tverbeure 3mo agoI wish lobste.rs would be a tiny bit easier to get access to. Some of my blog posts have been discussed there and every time I try to get access, I can’t get past their IRC stuff. As in: I just don’t understand how IRC works…
- Xeronate 3mo agoim sorry but maybe connecting to irc is a bit of a filter on the users they expect. especially with ai it should be almost no effort.
- devilsdata 3mo agoI've been waiting for my lobste.rs invite for years. I joined the IRC for a few days, but being in Australia, rarely saw too much activity. I could chase someone down for an invite, but at that point I just don't care that much.
- abetusk 3mo agoI was given my invite from a decent person who, I believe, basically has an "open door" policy. I'm happy to pay it forward and give you an invite if you want it. abetusk@mechaelephant.com
- cpach 3mo agoFWIW, you might want to consider publishing your e-mail address in your HN profile or on your website. Otherwise it’s hard for people to get in touch with you.
- pudgywalsh 3mo agoYou should overlay a banner on your blog when they send you an HTTP Referer explaining their nonsense. Maybe then they'll get the message. Then again, maybe they like the ability to critique your posts without you being able to rebut their opinions. It's an effective tactic in online echo chambers.
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- cdrini 3mo ago> Invitation-only is the future of online communities. This feels antithetical/dystopian/elitist compared to what online communities are, for me. I think it's ok for some communities to be like this, but I don't think it's the future of online communities.
- qsera 3mo agoI think it is better to have some elitist communities, than to drag everyone down to some least common denomination... I think that was one of the big mistakes/oversight that came with the Internet..
- cdrini 3mo agoI think some are fine, but if I had to choose one I'd choose open access, so I think it's the more important of the two. And in fact it's because the web is open, "no permission needed" by default that allows elitist groups to exist on the web. So I don't think I see it as a mistake. The alternative would be... You can only create a website if you're invited to the internet by someone who already has access? You have to get approval for your website from some authority before it goes public? Those were all potential futures we imo thankfully and carefully avoided!
- inigyou 3mo agoThat's actually how it already works, but there are large commercial access providers known as "ISPs". Before there were ISPs, you literally could only get on the internet with a direct connection to someone on the internet, usually a large university.
- qsera 3mo ago>Those were all potential futures we imo thankfully and carefully avoided! I am not so thankful. But it is coming from my view of the current world. I think open Internet for business is good. But open Internet for communication was bad. I cannot think of one good thing that have resulted from an open internet for communication/discussions. It has turned out to result in a collective, perpetual state of seizure for all humanity. I am someone who had to learn stuff from random encounters with books in the 90s. Even then, I would not have it any other way...
- OutOfHere 3mo agoThat's an unsubstantiated and false accusation wrt the 80%. If you believe it, why are you even here? Are you one of them?
- grebc 3mo agoBad bot.
- synqvest 3mo ago[dead]
- inigyou 3mo agoHN has always been "YC bootlickers only"
- gspr 3mo agoIt's a wonderful place. It feels like HN, but with the Silicon Valley attitude dialed way way way down, and with a much narrower scope (politics, economics and entrepreneurship are all off-topic, for example).
- christophilus 3mo agoHuh. I’ve largely avoided it, but that does sound pretty nice.
- dgellow 3mo ago[flagged]
- dprkh 3mo agoIf still relevant, you can email me and I will send you an invite. My email is dprkh at fastmail dot com
- NetOpWibby 3mo agoThe SV attitude isn't there but there's active assholes who wield their moderation weirdly. I deactivated my account before deactivations were added to the logs and I don't remember what made me quit. I've largely avoided Lobsters since. I joined their IRC channel last week and it's been rather chill. I do like the invite-only nature of the site though, keeps quality high...while making some folks tyrannical.
- cromka 3mo agoEvery such "club" inevitably attracts a specific sort that badly want to join just for the sense of exclusivity and a chance to virtue-signal their member status. It's same thing with some hard-to-get-into torrent trackers — once in, people become poster-children for Stockholm syndrome and the mods really get off on their perceived power. It's also the same with expensive new sport car models that manufacturers sell to collectors. My intuition says it's to do with Status Signaling theory .
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- Aurornis 3mo agoLobste.rs is very anti-AI. They force any LLM topic to be tagged with “vibecoding” even when the majority of LLM posts are not about vibecoding. AI posts are usually the most commented on. Linus Torvalds’ comments saying that LLMs are actually useful is still on the front page, tagged as vibecoding, and has a lot of comments from people mostly disagreeing with him. Lobste.rs is more of a monoculture than Hacker News. If you get downvoted enough they stick a banner on the top of the page inviting you to delete your account. It has a nasty side effect of driving away good contributors who don’t align perfectly with the hive mind. It’s a site where you learn to keep your mouth shut if your input doesn’t agree with what the core users want to hear.
- dgellow 3mo agoI honestly don’t find any of this concerning
- mh- 3mo agoThe concern usually only comes when you fall on the "outside" of the prevailing opinion within the group of people voting on comments. edit: my response isn't about lobste.rs. I don't have an account there.
- xtracto 3mo agoI dont remember why I was kind of barred from lobsters , but I applaud all this behavior you mentioned. In the end, that's how normal clickes of friends/interest groups form (or formed 30 years ago in real life.) If you got into my group of death metal people, and suddenly started talking about Oasis... we would invite you to get out haha. Same with patriots.win . They may be a group of right wing biggots, but hey, they did their platform and are happy talking there.
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