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If your in EU, you contact the local EU consumer group where you buy the device. https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/en/who-we-are/about-us/ecc-network/ https:

If your in EU, you contact the local EU consumer group where you buy the device. https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/en/who-we-are/about-us/ecc-network/ https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/en/who-we-are/about-us/e... And file a complaint... As that breaches a dozen or more EU laws. If a lot of people do it in all the countries, it becomes a national issue. That is the only way you fix things, and yes, we have had multiple successes with companies taking the piss. Even Samsung can not escape as their have officies in the EU and sell products there. For the folks outside the EU, ... Its a harder fight and you need to look up your local agencies.

Levitating 3mo ago
How about people just stop buying this crap instead? I've never owned a Samsung and I never will. People need to step out of this abusive relationship instead of trying to improve it. You will never be happy with a device you don't own.
- red-iron-pine 3mo ago
  point me to some mature, effective options and I'd consider it. now that you've done that, which ones are cheap, cuz most people are broke af
  - Levitating 3mo ago
    FairPhone, Nothing Phone, Jolla, Motorola, Google Pixel. If you're broke you shouldn't touch Samsung anyway. Better off buying a Xiaomi and unlocking it.
- alyeska 3mo ago
  Really quick that leads to not being able to buy anything though. Sony has done a bunch of evil things (deleting paid media, hiding rootkits in music CDs). Apple abuses their monopoly to force using their web browser and extort a 30% cut of all purchases. Every car manufacturer is tracking every car they sell and selling that data. Retailers are tracking store visits using everything from face recognition to MAC addresses on cell phones. Boycotting can only do so much. We need regulations to protect people and steep fines for violating them.
  - Levitating 3mo ago
    It's not about boycotting or regulations. Just don't buy products you don't get to own, it's not that hard. I've never owned a Sony (other than a headset) or Apple product either. I am doing fine.

Levitating 3mo ago

How about people just stop buying this crap instead? I've never owned a Samsung and I never will. People need to step out of this abusive relationship instead of trying to improve it. You will never be happy with a device you don't own.

red-iron-pine 3mo ago
point me to some mature, effective options and I'd consider it. now that you've done that, which ones are cheap, cuz most people are broke af
- Levitating 3mo ago
  FairPhone, Nothing Phone, Jolla, Motorola, Google Pixel. If you're broke you shouldn't touch Samsung anyway. Better off buying a Xiaomi and unlocking it.
alyeska 3mo ago
Really quick that leads to not being able to buy anything though. Sony has done a bunch of evil things (deleting paid media, hiding rootkits in music CDs). Apple abuses their monopoly to force using their web browser and extort a 30% cut of all purchases. Every car manufacturer is tracking every car they sell and selling that data. Retailers are tracking store visits using everything from face recognition to MAC addresses on cell phones. Boycotting can only do so much. We need regulations to protect people and steep fines for violating them.
- Levitating 3mo ago
  It's not about boycotting or regulations. Just don't buy products you don't get to own, it's not that hard. I've never owned a Sony (other than a headset) or Apple product either. I am doing fine.