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Headline makes it sound like that's a bad thing.
by steve1977 3mo ago
Headline makes it sound like that's a bad thing.
- ratelimitsteve 3mo agoit's based on age and I think that the age verification it would require is pretty universally reviled, at least here on HN
- narrowtux 3mo agoI want it to be forbidden for anybody. They have stolen our attention for years
- nickthegreek 3mo agoHow about you just petition for an option to chose. That way you get yours and I get mine. You don’t need to make that decision for me.
- IAmBroom 3mo agoRemoving choice is generally a bad thing, IMO.
- dijksterhuis 3mo agoit doesn't remove any choice for users. users don't get a choice on the offending sites currently. they only get infinite scroll. so the eventual infinite scroll replacement will be just that, the replacement. on removing possible UI design choices for social media companies -- i have a very small violin on hand.
- mdp2021 3mo ago> they only get infinite scroll (Actually, sometimes the "paged" interface in "infinite scrolling" systems is available, only hidden. There for the benefit of people like us, those who would find it and exploit it.)
- dijksterhuis 3mo agoi originally wrote users from the wider public or something but then decided to edit the comment down. fair point i suppose for the ~1% of users of these sites that are super tech nerds
- mdp2021 3mo ago> super tech nerds "Resourceful"?
- oenton 3mo agoCome on now you can't leave us hanging. What is this sorcery you speak of? Is this simply a feature Meta's been A/B testing or does this require opening your browser's developer tools?
- elictronic 3mo agoAny discussion on this topic within hacker news is pretty silly. To much financial incentive to keep the status quo, and to many bots pushing narratives. It’s like listening to the lawyers at a cigarette manufacturer, car manufacturers fight seat belts or gun manufacturers in kindergartens. The change is coming because real people are pissed.
- Noumenon72 3mo ago[flagged]
- ckosidows 3mo agoWho are you people glazing this functionality? The term doom scrolling came about, in large part, because of infinite scrolling. I have never, in nearly two decades of smart phones being everywhere, met someone who liked infinite scrolling enough to say so. People _use_ these things, sure, but that's because they're addictive and ubiquitous and not because they materially improve someone's life.
- iamnothere 3mo ago[flagged]
- bergfest 3mo agoWe had a choice when there were alternative clients for all major platforms. Make open APIs mandatory for large platforms and a lot of problems will disappear. UIs will be designed for the best user experience again instead of maximizing engagement. It will hurt their revenue but so be it.
- kasperni 3mo agoWe also removed choices to drive without a seat belt or sell lead paint. Was that a bad thing?
- steve1977 3mo agoLaws are pretty much always about removing choice.
- scoofy 3mo agoWhat choice? When did I ever choose infinite scroll?
- Noumenon72 3mo agoYou never had an option to have Google show a list of curated links or Yahoo show a simple search bar. You chose to go to the site you liked better and in aggregate the market chose the simple search. I could still be going to Slashdot or Things You Wouldn't Know Unless We Blogged It, but I and the content creators found that we preferred infinite scroll instead.
- scoofy 3mo agoYou could say the same thing about nutritional facts being printed on foods. The entire point is externalities that favor the company. These things are never going to be on products unless they are regulated. If you're going to make an argument for "choice" at least argue for opt out rather than "fuck it, let them put trans fats in the food and if you don't like it eat broccoli."
- Paracompact 3mo agoToo late, we now exclusively stock NicoSugar broccoli in the stores. I mean, I guess we chose it? It's not the market's fault that the human brain likes sugar and nicotine.
- brikym 3mo agoThat seems like cute libertarian nonsense. The key word is choice. People have less free will than you think. Every time a teen goes to insta/facebook/tiktok etc they are an individual up against a huge corporation of thousands of people and ML whose job it is to hijack their dopamine circuit. Usage of these apps decreases attention span which effectively means other activities become boring so the users experience a withdrawal symptom like a drug addict. And it doesn't just affect them. I think most of us would rather live in a society where 50% of the population isn't brain-rotted.
- oenton 3mo ago"First they came for the infinite scroll, but I did not speak out - because my mind was numb from the infinite scrolling."