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For multilingual and noisy audio the best right now is MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize which was released just a few days ago Superwhisper does a lot more than just pr

For multilingual and noisy audio the best right now is MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize which was released just a few days ago Superwhisper does a lot more than just provide a whisper/parakeet UI so I’m not sure Apple will destroy them so easily

satvikpendem 3mo ago
Thanks, was looking at a better diarization model. Even for those sorts of apps, MacParakeet which I've been using is FOSS so no payment needed. In reality these days with AI the ability to spin up a free and/or OSS competitor falls to zero.
- wahnfrieden 3mo ago
  I’m not even using it for diarisation just transcription and it’s amazing. It also doesn’t need a VAD A new VAD I found though is FireRedVAD which has better benchmark results than TEN and Silero by far
  - satvikpendem 3mo ago
    Is MOSS a streaming model or only for offline? For that VAD how are you integrating it into a model like Whisper etc?
    - wahnfrieden 3mo ago
      I'm using it offline. But it's much faster than realtime so it should be usable for streaming. I just asked Codex / Sol to integrate FireRedVAD with Whisper...
techsystems 3mo ago
Interesting! And what would you say are MTD top competitors?
- wahnfrieden 3mo ago
  I'm only dealing with Japanese audio so for me it's Anime-Whisper, a Japanese-specific fine-tuning of Qwen3 ASR, and Apple SpeechTranscriber.
foobarqux 3mo ago
16GB! (edit: this is wrong, I was looking at TTS, the transcribe model is 1.7GB). Compared to Parakeet 2.3GB (but no diarization). Also doesn't seem to be tailored to Apple hardware (i.e. no MLX or ANE variant/implementation)
- wahnfrieden 3mo ago
  I am running the MLX fork https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize Generally labs don't release MLX or ANE versions and we must rely on finding someone who's converted it Parakeet is not multilingual so not directly comparable Where do you see 16GB? MOSS is smaller than Parakeet at 1.82GB
  - foobarqux 3mo ago
    Thanks, I didn't see vanch007 version at first (only ~30 downloads), I usually look at mlx-community. For the size I was looking at the wrong model (TTS not transcribe-diarize), thanks for the corrections.

satvikpendem 3mo ago

Thanks, was looking at a better diarization model. Even for those sorts of apps, MacParakeet which I've been using is FOSS so no payment needed. In reality these days with AI the ability to spin up a free and/or OSS competitor falls to zero.

wahnfrieden 3mo ago
I’m not even using it for diarisation just transcription and it’s amazing. It also doesn’t need a VAD A new VAD I found though is FireRedVAD which has better benchmark results than TEN and Silero by far
- satvikpendem 3mo ago
  Is MOSS a streaming model or only for offline? For that VAD how are you integrating it into a model like Whisper etc?
  - wahnfrieden 3mo ago
    I'm using it offline. But it's much faster than realtime so it should be usable for streaming. I just asked Codex / Sol to integrate FireRedVAD with Whisper...

techsystems 3mo ago

Interesting! And what would you say are MTD top competitors?

wahnfrieden 3mo ago
I'm only dealing with Japanese audio so for me it's Anime-Whisper, a Japanese-specific fine-tuning of Qwen3 ASR, and Apple SpeechTranscriber.

foobarqux 3mo ago

16GB! (edit: this is wrong, I was looking at TTS, the transcribe model is 1.7GB). Compared to Parakeet 2.3GB (but no diarization). Also doesn't seem to be tailored to Apple hardware (i.e. no MLX or ANE variant/implementation)

wahnfrieden 3mo ago
I am running the MLX fork https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize Generally labs don't release MLX or ANE versions and we must rely on finding someone who's converted it Parakeet is not multilingual so not directly comparable Where do you see 16GB? MOSS is smaller than Parakeet at 1.82GB
- foobarqux 3mo ago
  Thanks, I didn't see vanch007 version at first (only ~30 downloads), I usually look at mlx-community. For the size I was looking at the wrong model (TTS not transcribe-diarize), thanks for the corrections.