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> So we'd rather a high speed chase, crashes, danger to cyclists and pedestrians? Yes, this is preferable to me when compared to a society where police can sur
by nozzlegear 4mo ago
> So we'd rather a high speed chase, crashes, danger to cyclists and pedestrians?
Yes, this is preferable to me when compared to a society where police can surveil everyone, everywhere for no crime at all. I don't want to sit on my roof listening to music and wonder how many police drones are watching me, trying to figure out if I'm a "prowler." I don't want to be followed by a police drone while I'm on my way to the basketball court to shoot hoops with my friend, simply because the police thought one of us looked like a "suspicious individual."
> I know this is lagging, and American culture will take decades to accept it, but the better our police are the lighter the sentences can be. Part of why a big hard sentence was seen as a deterrent was sort of the EROI ... If the chances of catching are small, you need a big deterrent. If the chances of catching are near 100% you only need a smaller deterrent (and apply it close to the behavior to maximize the brain training of "Do bad, bad things happen")
I think you're really underestimating the public's desire to punish criminals.
- stvltvs 4mo agoPeople will shoot themselves in the foot if it means criminals get harsher punishments, sometimes literally.
- maerF0x0 4mo ago> I think you're really underestimating the public's desire to punish criminals. Yes, i understand what you're saying hence why i mentioned culture. American justice (and cultural cues that inform the policies) seems to be more about revenge than rehabilitation.
- nozzlegear 4mo agoAgreed on American justice, our culture and thereby system really prefer to punish anyone who gets caught. But just to stick up for the US a little bit (although I'm not fond of our policies): it's not just America that prefers revenge over rehab. From what I understand, Central America and South America also prefer it – the "mano dura" (iron fist) policies that many countries have are harsh too.