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I see from the comments here many Americans especially are confused by this situation. Some background might make help. Farage seems to have broken Parliamenta

I see from the comments here many Americans especially are confused by this situation. Some background might make help. Farage seems to have broken Parliamentary Rules (laid down after the cash for questions scandal in the 1990s) by accepting large sums of money as gifts - but without declaring them, something all MPs are required to do for any gift. But worse, one of these gifts came from a convicted crypto felon. The Parliamentary standards committee seemed likely to suspend him or order a recall by-election as a result. Nigel's aim in preempting this near-inevitability was apparently to use the media spotlight the by-election would give him to dominate the summer headlines and present himself as a man-of-the-peeps martyr-rebel under mean & outrageous establishment persecution (rather than just the rich little chancer he is, on the make, with the murkiest of murky connections). If he could hammer this impression into the public imagination, they'd then be deaf to any subsequent findings from the Parliamentary Standards Committee. In other words he thought this little manoeuvre could turn a damaging problem and weakness into a strength. Unfortunately for Nige, the other parties understood this, & instead have left him to play all summer long with the jokers and silly parties, looking like a laughingstock. So as you see, there's nothing anti-democratic about it. If he wins, he will still face the suspension and recall election that was coming anyway. But as part of procedure - not on the terms he's trying to set with this little stunt.

gib444 3mo ago
And we know what you all are thinking: only £5m, how pathetic. I get you. Farage is still learning, on his frequent visits to the US. Give him time. We definitely are the weaker and more pathetic side of the Atlantic when it comes to corruption in our politics at the moment. We do bow to your superiority in this area.
- pjc50 3mo ago
  The inability to do broadcast TV political adverts (outside of the PPB framework) really cuts down on the money involved in UK politics. But one effect of that (and purchasing power parity) is that UK MPs are really cheap to bribe.
  - WickyNilliams 3mo ago
    I'm always astonished when some cash for questions type scandal gets revealed and it turns out they got given like £10k to lobby for some cause. Frighteningly small amount of cash in comparison to the potential impact. It leads me to wonder what I could get done for myself if I was to drain some savings and send a bung to a politician. But alas, I have scruples
anonymousiam 3mo ago
The other parties are terrified that the immense popularity of Farage will land him the role of PM, so they're creatively interpreting their Parliamentary Rules to accuse Farage of violating them, which he has not done. It's the same sort of lawfare that Trump and Le Pen have been a victim of. Override the will of the people by finding an excuse to oust a popular politician that they see as a serious threat to their power. So much for democracy... Why is it not a violation of Parliamentary Rules to conspire to create a false candidate in an election?
- triceratops 3mo ago
  Weird that there have been "immensely popular" politicians before but they didn't have "lawfare" deployed against them on this scale. Also if these people are genuinely breaking the law, how would it go any differently?
- olelele 3mo ago
  The fact that Roger Stone & Trump haven’t faced consequences for jan 6 still amazes me. Edit: spelling
- squidbeak 3mo ago
  > so they're creatively interpreting their Parliamentary Rules to accuse Farage of violating them You seem deeply ignorant about the rules UK politicians are bound by. The Parliamentary Standards investigation doesn't need any creativity in interpreting a failure to declare a £5m gift as a breach of parliamentary rules. On the broader point, popularity doesn't exempt politicians from the rules that apply to every MP. Not that Farage is popular, he's -27 in the latest poll.
- pjc50 3mo ago
  The facts of the £5m are not entirely clear, but he's trying to pre-empt the actual investigation which if he wasn't guilty might clear him. Either way, there is no way to become PM without (approx) three hundred MPs. There's plenty of time before the true next election (not this by-election which Farage has forced) for him to attempt to stand candidates in and win that many seats. > conspire to create a false candidate in an election Binface is not a false candidate. He's complied with the rules just like everyone else.
rich_sasha 3mo ago
You can add to this that the other parties running against Farage don't really have an upside. Reform is leading the polls somehow and he's quite likely to win - which would give him an argument to say "the voters have decided, the whole thing about the finance rules is a witch-hunt". And frankly even if he loses, he can cry foul play about how he was hounded out. What should happen is the investigation to run its course. The whole resignation is just an attempt to divert attention from it. Amusingly, I find it more likely Farage would lose to Count Binface than to the mainstream candidates. To win, you need merely the most votes, not more than 50%. If the "not Farage" vote gets split between Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and Conservatives, he might eke out a win. But if anyone who doesn't like Farage just needs to vote Count Binface, it might actually happen.
glaucon 3mo ago
|suspend him or order a recall by-election as a result. I believe that while the Parliamentary Standards Committee can order a suspension, the prospect of a recall election is not due to the committee ordering it but rather sufficient electors in the Member's constituency petitioning for it. The recall election only becomes a possibility if any suspension is greater than ten days in length.
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gib444 3mo ago

And we know what you all are thinking: only £5m, how pathetic. I get you. Farage is still learning, on his frequent visits to the US. Give him time. We definitely are the weaker and more pathetic side of the Atlantic when it comes to corruption in our politics at the moment. We do bow to your superiority in this area.

pjc50 3mo ago
The inability to do broadcast TV political adverts (outside of the PPB framework) really cuts down on the money involved in UK politics. But one effect of that (and purchasing power parity) is that UK MPs are really cheap to bribe.
- WickyNilliams 3mo ago
  I'm always astonished when some cash for questions type scandal gets revealed and it turns out they got given like £10k to lobby for some cause. Frighteningly small amount of cash in comparison to the potential impact. It leads me to wonder what I could get done for myself if I was to drain some savings and send a bung to a politician. But alas, I have scruples

anonymousiam 3mo ago

The other parties are terrified that the immense popularity of Farage will land him the role of PM, so they're creatively interpreting their Parliamentary Rules to accuse Farage of violating them, which he has not done. It's the same sort of lawfare that Trump and Le Pen have been a victim of. Override the will of the people by finding an excuse to oust a popular politician that they see as a serious threat to their power. So much for democracy... Why is it not a violation of Parliamentary Rules to conspire to create a false candidate in an election?

triceratops 3mo ago
Weird that there have been "immensely popular" politicians before but they didn't have "lawfare" deployed against them on this scale. Also if these people are genuinely breaking the law, how would it go any differently?
olelele 3mo ago
The fact that Roger Stone & Trump haven’t faced consequences for jan 6 still amazes me. Edit: spelling
squidbeak 3mo ago
> so they're creatively interpreting their Parliamentary Rules to accuse Farage of violating them You seem deeply ignorant about the rules UK politicians are bound by. The Parliamentary Standards investigation doesn't need any creativity in interpreting a failure to declare a £5m gift as a breach of parliamentary rules. On the broader point, popularity doesn't exempt politicians from the rules that apply to every MP. Not that Farage is popular, he's -27 in the latest poll.
pjc50 3mo ago
The facts of the £5m are not entirely clear, but he's trying to pre-empt the actual investigation which if he wasn't guilty might clear him. Either way, there is no way to become PM without (approx) three hundred MPs. There's plenty of time before the true next election (not this by-election which Farage has forced) for him to attempt to stand candidates in and win that many seats. > conspire to create a false candidate in an election Binface is not a false candidate. He's complied with the rules just like everyone else.

rich_sasha 3mo ago

You can add to this that the other parties running against Farage don't really have an upside. Reform is leading the polls somehow and he's quite likely to win - which would give him an argument to say "the voters have decided, the whole thing about the finance rules is a witch-hunt". And frankly even if he loses, he can cry foul play about how he was hounded out. What should happen is the investigation to run its course. The whole resignation is just an attempt to divert attention from it. Amusingly, I find it more likely Farage would lose to Count Binface than to the mainstream candidates. To win, you need merely the most votes, not more than 50%. If the "not Farage" vote gets split between Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and Conservatives, he might eke out a win. But if anyone who doesn't like Farage just needs to vote Count Binface, it might actually happen.

glaucon 3mo ago

|suspend him or order a recall by-election as a result. I believe that while the Parliamentary Standards Committee can order a suspension, the prospect of a recall election is not due to the committee ordering it but rather sufficient electors in the Member's constituency petitioning for it. The recall election only becomes a possibility if any suspension is greater than ten days in length.

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