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Just from looking at the sites in the BlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist blocklist, it blocks anything tangent to AI such as Hugging Face and other model developers

Just from looking at the sites in the BlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist blocklist, it blocks anything tangent to AI such as Hugging Face and other model developers like Mistral/Z.ai, not sites that actually post AI slop. That's a good example of the exact problem with such a broad stroke rule.

Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
In general, each blacklist targets a different facet of slop content farm structures. Some LLM use-cases like search are legitimate, but most traffic volume is spam/slop related. Depends on your use-case, but most people don't need content used in network nuisances like YC AstroTurf posts. =3
- minimaxir 3mo ago
  Being carelessly overzealous with flags/blocking is a reliable way to kill a community by making it overly toxic, speaking from experience.
  - Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
    I am skeptical YC frequency of "AI" related content is representative of actual users interest. Yet I agree there are a lot of cultural differences in this world that don't often translate well for some users. Some folks will assume because they disagree about some subject, that it is some sort of personal slight. Even scoring posts does provably change peoples behavior, and studies showed it tended to make people more punitive in their conduct with strangers. At bare minimum, YC should have bot CAPTCHA protection on posts. As unleashing chat bots on users is often disrespectful, and just cows people out of participating in conversations in good faith. =3
    - minimaxir 3mo ago
      > I am skeptical YC frequency of "AI" related content is representative of actual users interest. Are you implying the front page is botted/manipulated?
      - Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
        Not sure why it has gravitated to a narrow scope subject, but compared to the diverse interests most technical people had in the past. LLM weights now seems like an oddly over-represented topic even when its unrelated to actual use-cases. Throwing up a bot challenge would probably improve signal-to-noise ratios, but who knows for sure. =3

Joel_Mckay 3mo ago

In general, each blacklist targets a different facet of slop content farm structures. Some LLM use-cases like search are legitimate, but most traffic volume is spam/slop related. Depends on your use-case, but most people don't need content used in network nuisances like YC AstroTurf posts. =3

minimaxir 3mo ago
Being carelessly overzealous with flags/blocking is a reliable way to kill a community by making it overly toxic, speaking from experience.
- Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
  I am skeptical YC frequency of "AI" related content is representative of actual users interest. Yet I agree there are a lot of cultural differences in this world that don't often translate well for some users. Some folks will assume because they disagree about some subject, that it is some sort of personal slight. Even scoring posts does provably change peoples behavior, and studies showed it tended to make people more punitive in their conduct with strangers. At bare minimum, YC should have bot CAPTCHA protection on posts. As unleashing chat bots on users is often disrespectful, and just cows people out of participating in conversations in good faith. =3
  - minimaxir 3mo ago
    > I am skeptical YC frequency of "AI" related content is representative of actual users interest. Are you implying the front page is botted/manipulated?
    - Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
      Not sure why it has gravitated to a narrow scope subject, but compared to the diverse interests most technical people had in the past. LLM weights now seems like an oddly over-represented topic even when its unrelated to actual use-cases. Throwing up a bot challenge would probably improve signal-to-noise ratios, but who knows for sure. =3