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That's 7x the cost that I pay in the Pacific NW. Where are you?
by hunterpayne 3mo ago
That's 7x the cost that I pay in the Pacific NW. Where are you?
- Keloran 3mo agoI am going to assume based on the fact that the article is about Ireland, and Ireland uses the euro, the commenter is in Ireland
- keane 3mo agoAlso the mention of turf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B3rd_na_M%C3%B3na https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B3rd_na_M%C3%B3na
- hinkley 3mo agoThat makes it worse! A euro is worth about 10% more than a dollar. Ireland has a lot of oil in their power mix from what I'm seeing, so that makes a bit of sense. Maybe the high power cost is why they're deploying ~600GWh of new wind capacity per year for the last 15 years. Because at those rates the wholesale prices should be able to subsidize a lot of loans.
- hunterpayne 3mo agoWe don't measure capacity in GWh, we measure it in GW. And if Ireland had 600GW of wind, their entire island would be surrounded by a forest of windmills. Also, Ireland lacks any energy storage so none of that wind can be used for baseload, only variable load.
- hinkley 3mo ago> We don't measure capacity in GWh I cannot even express how much hatred I have for bad charts, and getting tricked by one anyway when I go in already expecting it to be lying to me is incandescently indescribable. On Wikipedia there's a very progressive-looking chart that is measuring in TWh/year and going up up up. And as you say, >Ireland lacks any energy storage so none of that wind can be used for baseload You always measure baseload in GW or if you're fancy, TW. So what that chart is really saying is that Wind is adding on average about 70 KW of capacity per year, when amortized over 24 hours. Which is probably on the order of an additional .3GW of capacity per year when the sun is shining and bupkis the rest of the time. Although given how overcast that region is, maybe measuring solar in TWh/year is a bit excusable, and then they end up measuring everything else that way?
- rsynnott 3mo agoIreland doesn't use oil for generation these days; the last oil plant closed a while back. We use a lot of _gas_, which is under a lot of price pressure at the moment.
- s1artibartfast 3mo agoPaying 50 cents here in California. Running the electric oven costs literal dollars. However, this isnt new. Im hoping the data centers bring more attention to our state run cartel and push it over a tipping point.
- delichon 3mo ago18 cents here in New Mexico. You must be getting premium government services for paying all of that in California.
- lotsofpulp 3mo agoCalifornia utility prices are a function of income. https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/industries-and-topics/electrical-energy/electric-costs/care-fera-program https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/industries-and-topics/electrical-ene...
- mh- 3mo agoOnly the fixed portion is. So about $20 of my $400-800 monthly electric bill is income-based.
- s1artibartfast 3mo agoNot really. There is a standard rate and then the companies are required by the state to offer an opt in low income tier. There was a push a year or two back to make it fully income based, where you would have to give the power company your w2 to determine your rate, but it was rejected (for now)
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- dymk 3mo agoI'm in the PNW and I pay 11c/kWh (well, I would, if I didn't have solar). Seattle is 13c, King County averages 16c. Where are you paying 5c/kWh? That's exceptionally cheap.
- hunterpayne 3mo agoNear Vancouver.
- devindotcom 3mo agoGuessing Vancouver WA (just north of Portland OR) not BC (Canada). For those not familiar with the area.
- hunterpayne 3mo agocorrect
- loeg 3mo agoSeattle is nearer 14c (13.75) and likely to increase over the next decade (because of nonsense like[1]). [1]: This alone will increase costs by something like 4c/kWh from these 70 year old dams: https://www.king5.com/article/news/investigations/skagit-river-dams/seattle-mayor-sign-skagit-river-settlement-seattle-city-light-relicensing/281-ad111f28-8ecb-4b7a-b97e-8e0937804a0c https://www.king5.com/article/news/investigations/skagit-riv...
- Schiendelman 3mo agoSeattle now has variable rate. I pull most of my power at night, when it's 8c/kWh.
- loeg 3mo agoNice. I had heard they were planning this, but last time I looked into it, they hadn't rolled it out yet. You have some kind of home battery?
- mvdtnz 3mo agoA thread in which yet another American learns how ludicrously cheap the cost of living is in USA despite the constant neverending moaning. My power is USD$0.271/kWh and I'm nowhere near Ireland.
- dyauspitr 3mo agoYou pay $0.05/kWh? That’s insanely low and I though I had it good at $0.1/kWh.