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"we seen during" This was an intentionally ironic use of poor grammar in a statement against organized education, right? Hopefully?

AnthonyMouse 3mo ago
That's grammatically correct AAVE. It's a thing they teach about in university.
- foldr 3mo ago
  Sure, but they also teach you to use SAE in contexts where that's expected (like most written work).
  - AnthonyMouse 3mo ago
    They more teach you that judging people on the basis of that is cultural bias.
    - foldr 3mo ago
      I agree. However, as it's clear that OP is not an AAVE speaker writing a comment in AAVE (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48880115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48880115), I thought you were being somewhat facetious.
throw94949499 3mo ago
I am foreigner. It is normal spoken english in UK where I lived. Sorry for not using "proper cambridge english" here.
- cheschire 3mo ago
  No need to be defensive. If you were unaware of the irony before my comment, then my point was that there may be more still for the education system to offer. This isn't directed at you specifically. I am making a broader connection to the need for higher education even when people feel it has no immediately obvious value. Sometimes the things learned in school are more subtle than what's on the syllabus.
  - throw94949499 3mo ago
    Ok, some points: * I do not consider HN forum to be place for formal english * I could think harder, and run my post through some tool to polish grammar. Why not: I consider this low effort post, and proper grammar sounds like AI generated content. * I was not being defensive * I am non native speaker, I got advanced english cambridge cert from private school lomg time ago . Complete with proper accent. * when I came to UK I got relentlessly mocked for "posh english"! It took me a few years to drop that and speak "normally". * I get the irony from your comment (I love "double negative" joke from IT Crowd). But that argument was valid maybe 10 years ago. After “Dear Colleague” letter, clawn show during covid, and recent raise of AI; I consider this topic irelevant. Now university is just a scam on poor people. * I have research background, know how academia works. Job and pay wise it is a joke. > no immediately obvious value > Sometimes the things learned in school are more Academia has no monopol on this, you can get it outside of academia. Millions of free books. Several PhDs ready to teach for $20/hour... If anything, academia relentlessly kills independent critical thinking. You have to agree with teacher to get credit and to pass, that is learnet at school.
sscaryterry 3mo ago
Shame on you, attacking the grammar, not the person.

AnthonyMouse 3mo ago

That's grammatically correct AAVE. It's a thing they teach about in university.

foldr 3mo ago
Sure, but they also teach you to use SAE in contexts where that's expected (like most written work).
- AnthonyMouse 3mo ago
  They more teach you that judging people on the basis of that is cultural bias.
  - foldr 3mo ago
    I agree. However, as it's clear that OP is not an AAVE speaker writing a comment in AAVE (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48880115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48880115), I thought you were being somewhat facetious.

throw94949499 3mo ago

I am foreigner. It is normal spoken english in UK where I lived. Sorry for not using "proper cambridge english" here.

cheschire 3mo ago
No need to be defensive. If you were unaware of the irony before my comment, then my point was that there may be more still for the education system to offer. This isn't directed at you specifically. I am making a broader connection to the need for higher education even when people feel it has no immediately obvious value. Sometimes the things learned in school are more subtle than what's on the syllabus.
- throw94949499 3mo ago
  Ok, some points: * I do not consider HN forum to be place for formal english * I could think harder, and run my post through some tool to polish grammar. Why not: I consider this low effort post, and proper grammar sounds like AI generated content. * I was not being defensive * I am non native speaker, I got advanced english cambridge cert from private school lomg time ago . Complete with proper accent. * when I came to UK I got relentlessly mocked for "posh english"! It took me a few years to drop that and speak "normally". * I get the irony from your comment (I love "double negative" joke from IT Crowd). But that argument was valid maybe 10 years ago. After “Dear Colleague” letter, clawn show during covid, and recent raise of AI; I consider this topic irelevant. Now university is just a scam on poor people. * I have research background, know how academia works. Job and pay wise it is a joke. > no immediately obvious value > Sometimes the things learned in school are more Academia has no monopol on this, you can get it outside of academia. Millions of free books. Several PhDs ready to teach for $20/hour... If anything, academia relentlessly kills independent critical thinking. You have to agree with teacher to get credit and to pass, that is learnet at school.

sscaryterry 3mo ago

Shame on you, attacking the grammar, not the person.