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Odyssey Linux

17 points by Gualdrapo 3mo ago

Gualdrapo 3mo ago
"Odyssey holds a balance that's unique in the GNU/Linux landscape. It carries the essence of Void's purist Unix philosophy — its stable rolling-release model — and refines it into a ready-to-use experience, a verifiable chain of trust, and a coherent aesthetic. The first polished no-systemd distribution: optimized, customized, simple yet powerful, privacy- and security-oriented."
- wrs 3mo ago
  >The first polished no-systemd distribution Surely not. There were no polished Debians before 2014?
  - snootypoot 3mo ago
    things were polished back then?
- wgd 3mo ago
  At first I thought this excerpt was meant to warn people off without directly alleging AI authorship, but I guess that's less likely since I see you're also the submitter
  - glenstein 3mo ago
    I got the same impression especially from reading the about page. And it wasn't the em dash this time but the triplet of one word sentences. But just to comment directly on it and offer something constructive I appreciate a non systemd option that looks nice and hope this gets enough of a user base that it counts as votes in favor of that kind of paradigm.
- metoobruh 3mo ago
  I have my own non-systemd distro so won't be using yours, but wanted to give you props for your hard work and for keeping the no-systemd flag flying. They want to obsolete us? Nope, we'll obsolete them.
  - snootypoot 3mo ago
    link distro pls, thank
    - metoobruh 3mo ago
      It is not available at this time. Sorry, friend.
kvuj 3mo ago
> Odyssey is Void with three extra packages > This distribution is maintained by one person. I'm sorry if this is too negative, but I give it less than 12 months before it's abandoned. Maintaining a linux distro gets very boring after a while.
- tosti 3mo ago
  It doesn't have to be boring if you challenge yourself just enough to make something neat. But I can pretty much guarantee it can get tedious and ungrateful. On top of that, you're not getting paid. I know I can't afford to live that life. Perhaps when I retire, idk.
- tym0 3mo ago
  I think as long as it's just an installer with an extra repo and the rest keeps pointing to the Void repos then that sounds manageable. There's about 20 packages in their forgejo instance. Doesn't mean I would pick it up but if you're maintaining that for yourself and your mates that's fine.
goodroot 3mo ago
I understand what it is. I'm just wondering why. The code is also not immediately available, which makes claims towards any chain of trust somewhat dubious. And I'm not sure what purist really means in this context, and how a rolling release is - or even implies - inherently "pure" Unix. If systemd is the hill to die on, Void is active and supported. Usually I default to encouragement; I don't mean to put any water on OP's fire, yet there's a whole lot of grand words in these essays. And really not a lot of explaining why any of this would make me switch from, for example, Arch, or that explain which problems are being solved.
- soerxpso 3mo ago
  It's Void with GUIs around runit and xbps. The problem being attempted is that Void is not very accessible to users new to Linux. This is pretty clear from the website.
  - mmh0000 3mo ago
    You mean the website that hijacks, then breaks, the back button making it incredibly annoying to read? I gave up after the 2 faq links.
- LargoLasskhyfv 3mo ago
  > The code is also not immediately available, which makes claims towards any chain of trust somewhat dubious. https://code.odysseylinux.org/explore/repos https://code.odysseylinux.org/explore/repos ?
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mangogogo 3mo ago
high-volume, highly detailed writing with a confusing sense of grandiosity for something people haven't yet heard of. i'm sure it's great, but a lot of this smells like LLM.
- smitty1e 3mo ago
  Same vibe. Plus, there is a very "community" spirit in successful distros. The Linux version of TempleOS is of clinical interest only.
igh4st 3mo ago
Don't you want to make the letters even smaller? I almost get crossed eyes trying to read the features.
- paularmstrong 3mo ago
  I closed the page and gave up figuring out what this was about because of the poor contrast ratio and tiny font. [edit] apparently the contrast ratio is technically okay. But this is one of those cases where raw contrast ratio isn't actually a good measure of accessibility. Just because some text has 5.92:1 contrast ratio, doesn't mean that at 11px font-size it's legible.
- ks2048 3mo ago
  LLMs don't notice this. Gray-on-black-small-letters. An immediate close the tab for me.
recsv-heredoc 3mo ago
It's unlikely that someone who understands this well enough to see its value wouldn't be completely comfortable with a terminal interface.
hankbond 3mo ago
Website design is borderline unreadable and the copy just drips LLM slop. This is your first interaction with potential users. Please put some care into accessibility and originality (just write like we are chatting). Your current website is very off-putting.
tym0 3mo ago
I've used the Void userspace for a while as my WSL layer and I do really like the package manager. Anyone actually running Void on real hardware? What's runit like?
snootypoot 3mo ago
thanks ill check it out. i switch between void and artix already so this is a pretty cool idea. i usually advise new people to use mint but i feel guilty moving them from microsoft windows to microsoft systemd. maybe this will develop into a better option.

17 points by Gualdrapo 3mo ago

"Odyssey holds a balance that's unique in the GNU/Linux landscape. It carries the essence of Void's purist Unix philosophy — its stable rolling-release model — and refines it into a ready-to-use experience, a verifiable chain of trust, and a coherent aesthetic. The first polished no-systemd distribution: optimized, customized, simple yet powerful, privacy- and security-oriented."

wrs 3mo ago
>The first polished no-systemd distribution Surely not. There were no polished Debians before 2014?
- snootypoot 3mo ago
  things were polished back then?
wgd 3mo ago
At first I thought this excerpt was meant to warn people off without directly alleging AI authorship, but I guess that's less likely since I see you're also the submitter
- glenstein 3mo ago
  I got the same impression especially from reading the about page. And it wasn't the em dash this time but the triplet of one word sentences. But just to comment directly on it and offer something constructive I appreciate a non systemd option that looks nice and hope this gets enough of a user base that it counts as votes in favor of that kind of paradigm.
metoobruh 3mo ago
I have my own non-systemd distro so won't be using yours, but wanted to give you props for your hard work and for keeping the no-systemd flag flying. They want to obsolete us? Nope, we'll obsolete them.
- snootypoot 3mo ago
  link distro pls, thank
  - metoobruh 3mo ago
    It is not available at this time. Sorry, friend.

kvuj 3mo ago

> Odyssey is Void with three extra packages > This distribution is maintained by one person. I'm sorry if this is too negative, but I give it less than 12 months before it's abandoned. Maintaining a linux distro gets very boring after a while.

tosti 3mo ago
It doesn't have to be boring if you challenge yourself just enough to make something neat. But I can pretty much guarantee it can get tedious and ungrateful. On top of that, you're not getting paid. I know I can't afford to live that life. Perhaps when I retire, idk.
tym0 3mo ago
I think as long as it's just an installer with an extra repo and the rest keeps pointing to the Void repos then that sounds manageable. There's about 20 packages in their forgejo instance. Doesn't mean I would pick it up but if you're maintaining that for yourself and your mates that's fine.

goodroot 3mo ago

I understand what it is. I'm just wondering why. The code is also not immediately available, which makes claims towards any chain of trust somewhat dubious. And I'm not sure what purist really means in this context, and how a rolling release is - or even implies - inherently "pure" Unix. If systemd is the hill to die on, Void is active and supported. Usually I default to encouragement; I don't mean to put any water on OP's fire, yet there's a whole lot of grand words in these essays. And really not a lot of explaining why any of this would make me switch from, for example, Arch, or that explain which problems are being solved.

soerxpso 3mo ago
It's Void with GUIs around runit and xbps. The problem being attempted is that Void is not very accessible to users new to Linux. This is pretty clear from the website.
- mmh0000 3mo ago
  You mean the website that hijacks, then breaks, the back button making it incredibly annoying to read? I gave up after the 2 faq links.
LargoLasskhyfv 3mo ago
> The code is also not immediately available, which makes claims towards any chain of trust somewhat dubious. https://code.odysseylinux.org/explore/repos https://code.odysseylinux.org/explore/repos ?

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mangogogo 3mo ago

high-volume, highly detailed writing with a confusing sense of grandiosity for something people haven't yet heard of. i'm sure it's great, but a lot of this smells like LLM.

smitty1e 3mo ago
Same vibe. Plus, there is a very "community" spirit in successful distros. The Linux version of TempleOS is of clinical interest only.

igh4st 3mo ago

Don't you want to make the letters even smaller? I almost get crossed eyes trying to read the features.

paularmstrong 3mo ago
I closed the page and gave up figuring out what this was about because of the poor contrast ratio and tiny font. [edit] apparently the contrast ratio is technically okay. But this is one of those cases where raw contrast ratio isn't actually a good measure of accessibility. Just because some text has 5.92:1 contrast ratio, doesn't mean that at 11px font-size it's legible.
ks2048 3mo ago
LLMs don't notice this. Gray-on-black-small-letters. An immediate close the tab for me.

recsv-heredoc 3mo ago

It's unlikely that someone who understands this well enough to see its value wouldn't be completely comfortable with a terminal interface.

hankbond 3mo ago

Website design is borderline unreadable and the copy just drips LLM slop. This is your first interaction with potential users. Please put some care into accessibility and originality (just write like we are chatting). Your current website is very off-putting.

tym0 3mo ago

I've used the Void userspace for a while as my WSL layer and I do really like the package manager. Anyone actually running Void on real hardware? What's runit like?

snootypoot 3mo ago

thanks ill check it out. i switch between void and artix already so this is a pretty cool idea. i usually advise new people to use mint but i feel guilty moving them from microsoft windows to microsoft systemd. maybe this will develop into a better option.