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Polish estimates are closer to 20k, btw. And Polish forces executed thousands of Ukrainians as well during the same events. Also don't forget russians executed

Polish estimates are closer to 20k, btw. And Polish forces executed thousands of Ukrainians as well during the same events. Also don't forget russians executed 22k Polish prisoners of war in 1940 and lied about it for decades. Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians who are holding back russians? Russians who are casually invade neighbors once in a while and committing atrocities

iugtmkbdfil834 3mo ago
Hmm, it is mildly fascinating that it has to be said. Germans in government typically don't celebrate the adherents to the events that Poles were subjected to. Ukrainian government on the other hand uses lets call it something of an ambiguous framing to make it charitable. Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2 ( all while effectively enforcing its particular brand of crazy upon the land ). Now, Ukraine is absorbing Russia's onslaught ( and that is something Poles benefit from even if they don't admit it ), but lets be clear. They ( Ukraine ) are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
- yakshaving_jgt 3mo ago
  > Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...
  - iugtmkbdfil834 3mo ago
    I have to remember to stop trying to use euphemisms on the world wide web.
drysine 3mo ago
>Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians Germans condemn what they did, the Ukrainians are making Pantheon[0][1] of their war criminals who committed genocide[2]. [0] https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-be-built-at-one-of-orthodox-christianitys-most-sacred-spots/ https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-... [1] https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukraines-eu-accession-at-risk https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukr... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia...
throwawaytea 3mo ago
Do you also inform Jewish people about the lower bound estimates of their people killed, or only Polish people?

iugtmkbdfil834 3mo ago

Hmm, it is mildly fascinating that it has to be said. Germans in government typically don't celebrate the adherents to the events that Poles were subjected to. Ukrainian government on the other hand uses lets call it something of an ambiguous framing to make it charitable. Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2 ( all while effectively enforcing its particular brand of crazy upon the land ). Now, Ukraine is absorbing Russia's onslaught ( and that is something Poles benefit from even if they don't admit it ), but lets be clear. They ( Ukraine ) are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

yakshaving_jgt 3mo ago
> Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...
- iugtmkbdfil834 3mo ago
  I have to remember to stop trying to use euphemisms on the world wide web.

drysine 3mo ago

>Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians Germans condemn what they did, the Ukrainians are making Pantheon[0][1] of their war criminals who committed genocide[2]. [0] https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-be-built-at-one-of-orthodox-christianitys-most-sacred-spots/ https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-... [1] https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukraines-eu-accession-at-risk https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukr... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia...

throwawaytea 3mo ago

Do you also inform Jewish people about the lower bound estimates of their people killed, or only Polish people?