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Canoeing 15 meter waves!? I've bailed off of lakes at like 2 foot waves for fear of swamping (admittedly fully laden canoes, but still). Are you just using sta
by gpm 3mo ago
Canoeing 15 meter waves!? I've bailed off of lakes at like 2 foot waves for fear of swamping (admittedly fully laden canoes, but still).
Are you just using standard open canoes you'd use on a lake (potentially with some air bladders to keep from swamping?), or something special for this?
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- moab9 3mo agoLarge rolling ocean waves CAN be very gentle, especially compared to lake chop. I've done both in very small craft. Chop is scary.
- Izikiel43 3mo agoNot 15 foot, 15m. 15feet ~ 5m, so 45 feet ~ 15m
- gpm 3mo agoOops, fixed (astonishment that this is doable... intensifies)
- jjcm 3mo agoQuoting this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48875676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48875676 > Don't think of these waves like the ones you encounter at shore. Open ocean waves are moving mountains. > It isn't this: /( > It's this: .,-~^^~-,. ___.-/ \-.__ The canoes are outrigger canoes specifically designed for open ocean wave surfing. They're made to ride these mountains. There are air bladders in the front and the back, and the canoes are easily recoverable when (not if) you flip. This vid shows off the canoes on a small ~4' wave: https://youtu.be/deIpUyBp_6Y?t=251 https://youtu.be/deIpUyBp_6Y?t=251, but the mechanics are the same.
- jjcm 3mo agotwo other unneccessary details: 1. that 15m one was the most fun I've ever had on a wave, ever. Think of it like going down a ski slope in a canoe, except the ski slope moves with you for miles. 2. we had one of the motorized lead boats sink that year due to them. Interestingly, you're more safe in the canoes on them than you are a standard boat.
- foobarian 3mo agoWait a second. Do you actually keep "surfing" down it for miles?? I thought that was only done near shore where waves break. If so that's the most amazing thing I learned this year yet :-)
- gpm 3mo agoSince it looks like you might not be getting an answer - I can't speak to ocean waves but I strongly expect so. I've certainly surfed non-breaking standing waves in whitewater just fine (not me, but e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlwijfFpk3E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlwijfFpk3E) Surfing is just sliding down the rise in water caused by a wave at the pace as the water rises behind you as the wave moves (in the case of standing waves, I mean moves relative to the reference frame of the water).
- jjcm 3mo agoYes you do. The teams that typically win the Molokai'i Hoe (the race between the islands) are the ones that ride the waves the longest. You'll stay on the same wave for 20-30min if you're good.
- gpm 3mo agoOk yeah those boats look a lot more suited for this than the kind of canoes I'm used to, e.g. (no affiliation) https://www.esquif.com/en/canoe/prospecteur-17/ https://www.esquif.com/en/canoe/prospecteur-17/ Looks and sounds like a blast!
- vjvjvjvjghv 3mo agoWow. This looks super cool
- WalterBright 3mo agoPutting an outrigger on your canoe will make it much more seaworthy.
- jjav 3mo agoOcean swell height doesn't matter much, the period does. A 10ft swell on a 30 second period is nothing, a 10ft swell on a 5 second period you're going to have a bad day.