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> Whenever I leave a company I make sure everything that belongs to the company goes back to them and I wipe any access credentials or authenticator codes that

> Whenever I leave a company I make sure everything that belongs to the company goes back to them and I wipe any access credentials or authenticator codes that might be on any of my devices. I can't imagine being so brazen that you'd keep the company laptop and then start using an exploit to download confidential information for your new employer. I work from home and I have a lot of equipment here (because of what I do - think sensor fusion). Everything is labeled with a bright sticky tape that signifies it belongs to my employer. If I'm not using something at the moment, it's safely stowed in a box that is labeled. My SO knows where everything is, so in the event something happens, they know who it belongs to and who to call. In addition, I keep an inventory sheet of everything. I broke it all down easily so that my SO doesn't have to worry. By doing this, it makes it easy on me as well to know what I have, how long I've had it, when it needs to be returned by, etc. None of that belongs to me, but they trust me with it and I respect that and I take excellent care of all of it. The mindset that these ex-employees have is just mind blowing. I couldn't fathom doing that.

Henchman21 3mo ago
Decent people don’t rise to the top in this world. Their — and your — ethics won’t allow it. Which means by definition that the people at the top of the economic pyramid are the very worst of us.
- indigodaddy 3mo ago
  Yike, this notion is deeply troubling to think about
  - yoz-y 3mo ago
    I think by now we have enough evidence to support that point of view. Not everybody up top is a crook, but not having morals or abandoning them along the way certainly makes it easier to ascend.
    - breppp 3mo ago
      This is simply the new "Poor people are evil" which was popular for some time. When these kind of generalizations sound like they are flattening any resemblance of reality, it is because they are
      - Henchman21 3mo ago
        There was no evidence for “poor people are evil”. But there’s ample evidence for “rich people are evil”. What makes a person think they deserve more than another? What makes a person ignore laws and norms to make a buck? At the expense of others? Evil. Yes it’s fashionable. Doesn’t make it untrue.
        breppp 3mo ago
        > There was no evidence for “poor people are evil”. Most thieves, murderers, etc were poor, they weren't? Then they were explained as special cases. When you come with a premade conclusion based on ideology it is usually very easy to find "proofs". Think it a different way, most of the people reading this forum are at the world's top 1%. I venture to guess you as well, are you evil for hoarding all that cash? Was your 9-5 work epitome of evil?
        Henchman21 3mo ago
        Specifically to the questions about my status and wealth: All yes. Absolutely all yes. Am I evil for being part of the 1%? Yes. Am I evil for hoarding? Yes. Is/was the work evil on its face? Yes. I am honest these days about my life, choices, etc. I have done much that is flatly wrong and I would love to somehow make up for it. I cannot. Society is structured in such a way to promote evil and suppress good. That structure is continually reinforced by evil people seeking to retain their advantage. A thing is what it is.
        breppp 3mo ago
        Well I can look back and I don't see a lot of evil done in computer programming. At the worst end of the industry, all those privacy incursions can be very trivial when compared to any of the real evils of the physical world. I think this is a marking of the overly dramatic and self centered nature of the american progressive movement, but I digress

Henchman21 3mo ago

Decent people don’t rise to the top in this world. Their — and your — ethics won’t allow it. Which means by definition that the people at the top of the economic pyramid are the very worst of us.

indigodaddy 3mo ago
Yike, this notion is deeply troubling to think about
- yoz-y 3mo ago
  I think by now we have enough evidence to support that point of view. Not everybody up top is a crook, but not having morals or abandoning them along the way certainly makes it easier to ascend.
  - breppp 3mo ago
    This is simply the new "Poor people are evil" which was popular for some time. When these kind of generalizations sound like they are flattening any resemblance of reality, it is because they are
    - Henchman21 3mo ago
      There was no evidence for “poor people are evil”. But there’s ample evidence for “rich people are evil”. What makes a person think they deserve more than another? What makes a person ignore laws and norms to make a buck? At the expense of others? Evil. Yes it’s fashionable. Doesn’t make it untrue.
      - breppp 3mo ago
        > There was no evidence for “poor people are evil”. Most thieves, murderers, etc were poor, they weren't? Then they were explained as special cases. When you come with a premade conclusion based on ideology it is usually very easy to find "proofs". Think it a different way, most of the people reading this forum are at the world's top 1%. I venture to guess you as well, are you evil for hoarding all that cash? Was your 9-5 work epitome of evil?
        Henchman21 3mo ago
        Specifically to the questions about my status and wealth: All yes. Absolutely all yes. Am I evil for being part of the 1%? Yes. Am I evil for hoarding? Yes. Is/was the work evil on its face? Yes. I am honest these days about my life, choices, etc. I have done much that is flatly wrong and I would love to somehow make up for it. I cannot. Society is structured in such a way to promote evil and suppress good. That structure is continually reinforced by evil people seeking to retain their advantage. A thing is what it is.
        breppp 3mo ago
        Well I can look back and I don't see a lot of evil done in computer programming. At the worst end of the industry, all those privacy incursions can be very trivial when compared to any of the real evils of the physical world. I think this is a marking of the overly dramatic and self centered nature of the american progressive movement, but I digress