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if you haven't cared about using an account for a year, why do you want to use it all of a sudden now?
by andsoitis 4mo ago
if you haven't cared about using an account for a year, why do you want to use it all of a sudden now?
- superkuh 4mo agoIf you haven't used your $whatever in a year, why do you want to use it now? Replace $whatever with whatever you want and you'll see how absurd this question is.
- andsoitis 4mo agoI really don’t think it absurd. What’s an example where a Google account is important to you but you haven’t used it in a year?
- AngryData 4mo agoI barely use my gmail that often. But I still need an email for password recovery.
- dpark 4mo agoI would personally not want my account recovery tied to an account I rarely use. That seems full of unnecessary risk. What if you forget that Gmail password? What if it’s compromised and you don’t even notice for almost a year? What if Google decides to change their retention for unused accounts to just 6 months?
- AngryData 4mo agoI actually had my gmail's backup email at yahoo recycled and I had to remake that account. But genrally I consider these email accounts as my master key to all my other accounts. It has a master password that I am certain I could not lose except simultaneous major head trama and destruction of all my belongings. If that email was lost, yeah I could be screwed out of other accounts. But no security system is perfect.
- prisondroid 4mo agoI recently got out of prison, it's not really practical to keep logging into Google from prison, especially with 2fa enabled.
- dpark 4mo ago“If you haven't used your dirty tissue in a year, why do you want to use it now?” “If you haven't used your ham sandwich in a year, why do you want to use it now?” “If you haven't used your receipt in a year, why do you want to use it now?” Ah, yes. I see what you mean. Truly absurd.
- soraminazuki 4mo agoHaha, smart. But those quotes still don't justify me taking away your one year old ham sandwich.
- dpark 4mo agoIf you leave your ham sandwich in the office fridge for a single week, anyone is justified in throwing it away. The trouble is you think that you are in possession of a ham sandwich that Google is taking away when in reality you’ve left your ham sandwich in Google’s fridge and they are sick of storing the obviously-abandoned sandwich for you. See also: https://xkcd.com/1150/ https://xkcd.com/1150/
- soraminazuki 4mo agoExcept it's just an excuse to make everyone surrender their phone numbers as one more way to tie people to their real identities. You try hard to paint one of the wealthiest companies in the world as some kind of victim, when in reality it's them that used Gmail as a trojan horse to make people create Google accounts so that they can spy on everyone online, and increasingly in the real world too. Also contrary to your insinuation that I'm an entitled jerk trying to rip off a trillion dollar company, I de-Googled a long time ago. Because I know they're the company that lets their clueless robots brand desperate parents trying to cure their children as child predators, punishes them by taking away the key to their entire digital lives, and worse, doubles down and continues to defame them when proven wrong [1]. But it's not fair to fault people who still depend on Google. Lack of informed consent, reinforced by dark patterns and justified with "user-friendliness" BS is what drew people in. Peer pressure also forces people to create accounts when they otherwise wouldn't have. I just have zero tolerance for corporate cheerleaders who justify this sort of thing by blaming the victim in the most condescending way possible. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32538805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32538805
- soraminazuki 4mo agoThe next aspiring trillionaire can take note of that argument when scamming people out of their retirement funds.
- andsoitis 4mo agoWhy would one not provide one’s phone number to a financial institution where you hold your retirement or other investment funds?
- soraminazuki 4mo agoDon't you think that "security" non-sequitur boogeyman is a bit too forced? You took my example, cherry-picked some words, and turned it into something else entirely. And too bad it doesn't even hold up because surrendering your phone number won't prevent securities fraud, which is what I was specifically referring to in my example.
- theevilsharpie 4mo agoI have user account on my personal Google Workspace domain that is used purely for superuser access (my day-to-day account doesn't have special access). I recently had to log into it for the first time in a few years to make a config change to the domain, and it wouldn't let me in because the 2FA code wasn't working, and a recovery code wasn't sufficient to enable privileged access. I had to reach out to Google Workspace support to regain admin access to my domain. Thankfully, they were able to do so (although it took a few days and I had prove ownership of it). So there's an example of a situation where an account that's not logged into for a long time doesn't mean that it's forgotten or unused.
- thunderfork 4mo agoPeople in jail/prison, for example, would not have the opportunity to access an account even if they wanted to keep it