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Its been the most anti-slavery religion and was the main motivation for the abolition of slavery. There is no Christian objection to 'miscegenation' and its a w

by graemep 4mo ago

Its been the most anti-slavery religion and was the main motivation for the abolition of slavery. There is no Christian objection to 'miscegenation' and its a weird concept only taken up in America and a few other places like South Africa during apartheid, and it owes more to race science than Christianity.

Hikikomori 4mo ago
Yet Christians had no problems taking, owning an selling slaves on an industrial scale for 100s of years. Their book even includes an ownership guide. And then you want a gold star for stopping what you created? The theocratic mind is laughable.
- jsemrau 4mo ago
  Like the rest of the world. Since there are many non-Western countries that still have slaves there is no original sin.
- graemep 4mo ago
  > Their book even includes an ownership guide. You mean the books of the Bible containing rules explicitly rejected by Christians from the start? The rules that Jesus is recorded as saying was a moral compromise? You are also conveniently skipping over the declarations of equality (with regard to slavery, race and sex) in the New Testament.
  - Hikikomori 4mo ago
    That's the thing, there's something about just about everything that can be interpreted in either direction. But christians are just humans, we do these things. The problem I have is when christians pretend they are better and always were because their new interpretation of some text. American slavery being a great example of this as the bible was just to both justify and in abolishment. And as usual, its all about what parts we currently like while ignoring the others.
KaiserPro 4mo ago
> Its been the most anti-slavery religion and was the main motivation for the abolition of slavery. Which branch of Christianity though? There was a huge disparity in approaches in new england colonies (ie rhode island thought the indigenous should have rights, Massachusetts couldn't give a shit about anyone other than the elected.) A lot of the english abolitionists were radicals, well outside the mainstream. The Quakers, Methodists, shakers were all deeply scary to the establishment
- graemep 3mo ago
  There was always Christian opposition to slavery much of it from the mainstream as well as radicals. St Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, several Popes and . Several Christian kingdoms (including England) abolished slavery and/or slave trading in medieval times. The US has tended towards justifying slavery, and its arguments included the ¨curse of Ham" borrowed from Muslim slave traders. British colonies in the Caribbean produced censored version of the Bible for slaves.

by graemep 4mo ago

Hikikomori 4mo ago

Yet Christians had no problems taking, owning an selling slaves on an industrial scale for 100s of years. Their book even includes an ownership guide. And then you want a gold star for stopping what you created? The theocratic mind is laughable.

jsemrau 4mo ago
Like the rest of the world. Since there are many non-Western countries that still have slaves there is no original sin.
graemep 4mo ago
> Their book even includes an ownership guide. You mean the books of the Bible containing rules explicitly rejected by Christians from the start? The rules that Jesus is recorded as saying was a moral compromise? You are also conveniently skipping over the declarations of equality (with regard to slavery, race and sex) in the New Testament.
- Hikikomori 4mo ago
  That's the thing, there's something about just about everything that can be interpreted in either direction. But christians are just humans, we do these things. The problem I have is when christians pretend they are better and always were because their new interpretation of some text. American slavery being a great example of this as the bible was just to both justify and in abolishment. And as usual, its all about what parts we currently like while ignoring the others.

KaiserPro 4mo ago

> Its been the most anti-slavery religion and was the main motivation for the abolition of slavery. Which branch of Christianity though? There was a huge disparity in approaches in new england colonies (ie rhode island thought the indigenous should have rights, Massachusetts couldn't give a shit about anyone other than the elected.) A lot of the english abolitionists were radicals, well outside the mainstream. The Quakers, Methodists, shakers were all deeply scary to the establishment

graemep 3mo ago
There was always Christian opposition to slavery much of it from the mainstream as well as radicals. St Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, several Popes and . Several Christian kingdoms (including England) abolished slavery and/or slave trading in medieval times. The US has tended towards justifying slavery, and its arguments included the ¨curse of Ham" borrowed from Muslim slave traders. British colonies in the Caribbean produced censored version of the Bible for slaves.