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You can trust Apple. I mean they openly lied to a judge last year under oath, but you can trust them.

by benoau 3mo ago

willtemperley 3mo ago
Can you provide a source? Otherwise your comment is useless.
- benoau 3mo ago
  Judge's ruling. > To hide the truth, Vice-President of Finance, Alex Roman, outright lied under oath. Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. The Court refers the matter to the United States Attorney for the Northern District of California to investigate whether criminal contempt proceedings are appropriate. > [..] > Neither Apple, nor its counsel, corrected the, now obvious, lies. They did not seek to withdraw the testimony or to have it stricken (although Apple did request that the Court strike other testimony). Thus, Apple will be held to have adopted the lies and misrepresentations to this Court. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.364265/gov.uscourts.cand.364265.1508.0_3.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.36...
xp84 3mo ago
I'm the farthest thing from an Apple fanboi you can find, but Apple's not so unethical as to make all this (OpenAI trade secret) stuff up. The OpenAI settlement they'll no doubt get from this won't amount to 30 days of their App Store rent-seeking that they were propping up with those lies. If they can't prove any of this stuff they wouldn't file the suit. No matter what you or I think of Apple, the chances that this went down at least as criminally as they allege, are very high.
- sumedh 3mo ago
  > Apple's not so unethical Apple colluded with other companies to suppress wages.
winstonwinston 3mo ago
Apple earned some trust unlike openai.

You can trust Apple. I mean they openly lied to a judge last year under oath, but you can trust them.

by benoau 3mo ago

You can trust Apple. I mean they openly lied to a judge last year under oath, but you can trust them.

willtemperley 3mo ago

Can you provide a source? Otherwise your comment is useless.

benoau 3mo ago
Judge's ruling. > To hide the truth, Vice-President of Finance, Alex Roman, outright lied under oath. Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. The Court refers the matter to the United States Attorney for the Northern District of California to investigate whether criminal contempt proceedings are appropriate. > [..] > Neither Apple, nor its counsel, corrected the, now obvious, lies. They did not seek to withdraw the testimony or to have it stricken (although Apple did request that the Court strike other testimony). Thus, Apple will be held to have adopted the lies and misrepresentations to this Court. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.364265/gov.uscourts.cand.364265.1508.0_3.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.36...

xp84 3mo ago

I'm the farthest thing from an Apple fanboi you can find, but Apple's not so unethical as to make all this (OpenAI trade secret) stuff up. The OpenAI settlement they'll no doubt get from this won't amount to 30 days of their App Store rent-seeking that they were propping up with those lies. If they can't prove any of this stuff they wouldn't file the suit. No matter what you or I think of Apple, the chances that this went down at least as criminally as they allege, are very high.

sumedh 3mo ago
> Apple's not so unethical Apple colluded with other companies to suppress wages.

winstonwinston 3mo ago

Apple earned some trust unlike openai.