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India is super super poor still I cannot imagine they would build out domestic Starlink for hypothetical wars before other actual critical infrastructure.
by ianm218 3mo ago
India is super super poor still I cannot imagine they would build out domestic Starlink for hypothetical wars before other actual critical infrastructure.
- luke5441 3mo agoSame as Russia, yeah. But Reliance Jio seems to have announced something. Don't know if it'll actually happen.
- ianm218 3mo agoYeah who knows poor infrastructure might let India skip fiber in some areas entirely. Maybe it’s not that hard to launch a domestic Starlink if Blue Origin/ SpaceX will bring your satellites up cheaply .
- wolvoleo 3mo agoThey have nukes and are always on the verge of war with Pakistan (who also have nukes). I'm sure they have money for war, everyone always does.
- triceratops 3mo agoThey have an actual space program that launches actual satellites. They have also been in several actual, non-hypothetical wars.
- tw1984 3mo agoTo launch a starlink style system, you need to be able to rapidly design and produce hundreds of thousands satellites and launch them within relatively short period of time with extremely high success rate. only the largest industrialized nation on earth can do that. india is 30-50 years away from such achievement. To give you some quick ideas - for the total of 330 space launches in 2025, the US had almost 200, China had close to 100 launches, Russia had 17 launches, the rest of the world had the remaining 20 in total.
- overfeed 3mo agoIndia was the first country to reach Mars on its first attempt. ISRO is a highly capable org, and cost effective. India also was #4 to land on the moon after the USSR, USA and China - beating Japan to the punch. SpaceX is yet to deliver a payload to the moon or Mars - orbit or lander.
- wqaatwt 3mo ago> the first country to reach Mars on its first attempt Well doing it decades later than others did help with that.
- overfeed 3mo agoHow many[1] others? Not many countries can claim that achievement, industrialized or not, which is telling. 1. The answer is 3.: USA, USSR, and the European Space Agency
- wqaatwt 3mo agoHow many countries can claim the achievement of developing nuclear weapons? Does that make North Korea somehow an inherently more successful country than Germany? Spending money on a space program while hundreds of millions of your citizens are living in extreme poverty is obscene (unless it provides significant economic value)
- triceratops 3mo ago> Spending money on a space program while hundreds of millions of your citizens are living in extreme poverty is obscene Why? According to Wikipedia they spend like $1.4b annually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISRO That's like an extra $10 for each of these citizens living in "extreme poverty". And what's the cutoff? Like 10% of the US population is under the poverty line: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States. Is NASA "obscene" too? Granted that's not the same as "extreme poverty" but it's still a bad look in the richest country in the world, right? > unless it provides significant economic value Investments in science and technology generally do. Rich countries are advanced in science and technology.
- adityamwagh 3mo agoWhat makes you think india is "super super" poor? India's GDP is humongous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...).
- kortilla 3mo agoThe denominator
- antonvs 3mo agoThe page you need to look at is GDP per capita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi... …which lists India as #148, below countries like Zimbabwe, Haiti, Bangladesh, Cambodia, and Palestine.
- triceratops 3mo agoThat only matters if you want to know how much an average individual can spend. Gross GDP is more relevant when you're discussing how much the state could spend on defence programs.
- eldaisfish 3mo agoIndia's total exports are in the same ballpark as the Netherlands, a country with half the population of the city of Bombay. India may not be a poor country, but GDP doesn't capture the real state of india's wealth.
- adityamwagh 3mo agoYes, GDP doesn't say anything about the individual wealth. But we are talking about the whole country here.