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this is amazing. I am ancient egypt nerd but sucks that egypt is in egypt. I got scammed last time i went there and ppl were rude and agrresive.

waschl 4mo ago
can you tell a bit more about how you got scammed? I was in Cairo twice for business and our hosts organized nice trips through the historic sites and new museum. I intend to go there with my family one day
- honeycrispy 4mo ago
  Sonny from the "Best Ever Food Review Show" had a similar experience to op. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzuZrkEY18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzuZrkEY18
  - dominotw 4mo ago
    https://youtube.com/shorts/iCInGp4cxhc https://youtube.com/shorts/iCInGp4cxhc i guess you might be ok if you are cocooned in a safe travel group. I travel more independently, freely and let things come to me. Going on planned group iternary isnt much of an interest for me at the moment.
    - zulux 4mo ago
      I absolutely hate tours and being penned in. However, if I see expats or locals in a tour group, it tells me there's some value there I'm missing. Served me well in India and parts of South America, for example.
      - dominotw 4mo ago
        for sure. thats how i'd travel in egypt with kids.
- nashashmi 4mo ago
  One common way: you go for a camel ride. The camelier offers a very cheap price. He takes you far out somewhere. You get off for a bit. If you want to get back on to go back, he will overcharge you. Otherwise you walk back and that is worse.
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zulux 4mo ago
You're not allowed to notice things.
nashashmi 4mo ago
Best way not to get scammed is to hire a tour guide. Best care. Best everything. They will tell you what to watch for. If you love Egyptology like others do, you are going to be in the targeted category for advertisement, souvenirs, and scams.
al_borland 4mo ago
I haven't been to Egypt and I've heard nothing but bad things from multiple sources. This is the only place in the world where I can say this about. It's really disappointing, as I'd love to see some of the history there.
- spiderfarmer 4mo ago
  The bad things are all true. Scamming people is their default. You can’t trust anyone you haven’t paid.
  - BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago
    Eh. I concede that there are a ton of scammers in the tourist areas. However, I think a lot of people used to the manners of the West really struggle with Egypt’s (admittedly, exhausting) haggling culture.
    - NitpickLawyer 4mo ago
      > haggling culture. There's haggling where you actually enjoy the process (i.e. Turkey, visiting the bazaars, you get to haggle, then you get invited for some cay w/ the vendor, talk a bit, that's really enjoyable) and then there's outright scamming. Friend of mine went to Egypt, really wanted to ride a camel. Agreed on a price, rode the camel, and at the end they wouldn't bring the wooden thingy so that he could dismount, and they were asking for more money. That's not enjoyable at all.
      - BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago
        Yeah, that’s just scamming. Unfortunately, that’s pretty common with the camel vendors. Since camel rides are almost exclusively bought by tourists, it attracts scammers that see the “customers” as easy marks. The government won’t do anything about it until it starts negatively affecting the money coming into the country via tourism.
- eahm 4mo ago
BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago
Yeah. Unfortunately, that’s true of almost any place that is overcrowded to that extent. Their stagnant economy doesn’t help.
stogot 4mo ago
What was the scam?
WhereIsTheTruth 4mo ago
Egypt in Egyptian hands outperforms Roman ruins under European urban development, Native architecture under US expansion, Aboriginal sites under Australian settlement :^)
kouunji 4mo ago
Egypt is amazing if you have locals to show you around. If you wander up to the pyramids in your shorts with your camera…yeah, you might be swarmed a bit. Weird how economic collapse makes people kinda desperate. I had one of the most magical meals in a street that had been mostly taken over by one restaurant - all the bread baked in one shop, the meat all butchered there…just amazing. The people who I saw get scammed were, well, people who would get scammed in a lot of places without a Walmart.

waschl 4mo ago

can you tell a bit more about how you got scammed? I was in Cairo twice for business and our hosts organized nice trips through the historic sites and new museum. I intend to go there with my family one day

honeycrispy 4mo ago
Sonny from the "Best Ever Food Review Show" had a similar experience to op. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzuZrkEY18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LzuZrkEY18
- dominotw 4mo ago
  https://youtube.com/shorts/iCInGp4cxhc https://youtube.com/shorts/iCInGp4cxhc i guess you might be ok if you are cocooned in a safe travel group. I travel more independently, freely and let things come to me. Going on planned group iternary isnt much of an interest for me at the moment.
  - zulux 4mo ago
    I absolutely hate tours and being penned in. However, if I see expats or locals in a tour group, it tells me there's some value there I'm missing. Served me well in India and parts of South America, for example.
    - dominotw 4mo ago
      for sure. thats how i'd travel in egypt with kids.
nashashmi 4mo ago
One common way: you go for a camel ride. The camelier offers a very cheap price. He takes you far out somewhere. You get off for a bit. If you want to get back on to go back, he will overcharge you. Otherwise you walk back and that is worse.

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zulux 4mo ago

You're not allowed to notice things.

nashashmi 4mo ago

Best way not to get scammed is to hire a tour guide. Best care. Best everything. They will tell you what to watch for. If you love Egyptology like others do, you are going to be in the targeted category for advertisement, souvenirs, and scams.

al_borland 4mo ago

I haven't been to Egypt and I've heard nothing but bad things from multiple sources. This is the only place in the world where I can say this about. It's really disappointing, as I'd love to see some of the history there.

spiderfarmer 4mo ago
The bad things are all true. Scamming people is their default. You can’t trust anyone you haven’t paid.
- BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago
  Eh. I concede that there are a ton of scammers in the tourist areas. However, I think a lot of people used to the manners of the West really struggle with Egypt’s (admittedly, exhausting) haggling culture.
  - NitpickLawyer 4mo ago
    > haggling culture. There's haggling where you actually enjoy the process (i.e. Turkey, visiting the bazaars, you get to haggle, then you get invited for some cay w/ the vendor, talk a bit, that's really enjoyable) and then there's outright scamming. Friend of mine went to Egypt, really wanted to ride a camel. Agreed on a price, rode the camel, and at the end they wouldn't bring the wooden thingy so that he could dismount, and they were asking for more money. That's not enjoyable at all.
    - BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago
      Yeah, that’s just scamming. Unfortunately, that’s pretty common with the camel vendors. Since camel rides are almost exclusively bought by tourists, it attracts scammers that see the “customers” as easy marks. The government won’t do anything about it until it starts negatively affecting the money coming into the country via tourism.
eahm 4mo ago

BoggleOhYeah 4mo ago

Yeah. Unfortunately, that’s true of almost any place that is overcrowded to that extent. Their stagnant economy doesn’t help.

stogot 4mo ago

What was the scam?

WhereIsTheTruth 4mo ago

Egypt in Egyptian hands outperforms Roman ruins under European urban development, Native architecture under US expansion, Aboriginal sites under Australian settlement :^)

kouunji 4mo ago

Egypt is amazing if you have locals to show you around. If you wander up to the pyramids in your shorts with your camera…yeah, you might be swarmed a bit. Weird how economic collapse makes people kinda desperate. I had one of the most magical meals in a street that had been mostly taken over by one restaurant - all the bread baked in one shop, the meat all butchered there…just amazing. The people who I saw get scammed were, well, people who would get scammed in a lot of places without a Walmart.