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> People don't use vim because they enjoy puzzle solving. I didn't say that either nor even imply it, and you know that when you quote me afterwards. So huh?!?
by gingerBill 3mo ago
> People don't use vim because they enjoy puzzle solving.
I didn't say that either nor even imply it, and you know that when you quote me afterwards. So huh?!?!
> People don't use Linux because they enjoy tweaking config files and everybody else has too busy a life to do that.
A lot of people, including younger myself, got into Linux and Android BECAUSE it was configurable and customizable. And even played around with all of the customizations because it was fun to do. But it didn't really make my general experience better because I was forever trying to correct something I should have to correct in the first place.
I am not sure how much clearer I can be in the article or in my replies to comments.
- jibal 3mo ago[flagged]
- sph 3mo agoYou can be less of a coward and reply to my comment, since you are talking about me personally, rather than mentioning me by name elsewhere. gingerBill and I were disagreeing, sure, but at least we were arguing on topic. I fail to see what is insightful about your comment than just pointing and saying 'get a load of this guy.' Thanks for your input, you can take a seat now.
- jibal 3mo agoI wasn't talking to you. Flagged.
- zahlman 3mo agoCasting aspersions at others behind their back, and then claiming "I wasn't talking to you" when called out for it, is not a productive or civil mode of discourse. Please don't.
- jibal 3mo agoThe pompous response from zahlman is at least as bad ... accusing me of "casting aspersions" and then saying that I was "called out" by a comment that calls me a coward and tells me to "take a seat"? Can one possibly be more lacking in evenhandedness? I forget that my HN frontend has a mute feature ... applying it to both of these.
- zahlman 3mo ago> I didn't say that either nor even imply it, and you know that when you quote me afterwards. You come across that way when you describe your interactions with Vim users talking about how they use macros. (Which, incidentally, doesn't match my experience at all.) More importantly, your comparison of "Vim users do this with macros" to "I could do this with (proper) multiple cursors" doesn't seem apt. Perhaps it could possibly make sense if we had at least one concrete example of "this"; but the most obvious thing to do with multiple cursors is patterned editing of multiple matching text fragments, and Vim users would (or I would, at least) normally do that with a /g regex. To the extent that macro is useful, it's because multiple changes are done (such that the dot command wouldn't help), and if that's too complex to do easily with regex then I can't imagine that the simultaneous changes with multiple cursors could actually get it right anyway. More importantly, though: the real point of a macro is that, having recorded it, you can persist it even across editing sessions. You also mentioned the possibility of writing a script; a macro is that, just in a very small, focused language. > A lot of people, including younger myself, got into Linux and Android BECAUSE it was configurable and customizable. And even played around with all of the customizations because it was fun to do. But it didn't really make my general experience better because I was forever trying to correct something I should have to correct in the first place. This doesn't match my experience at all. I play around with customizations because I understand that the default couldn't possibly have anticipated what I wanted. But more importantly: I use multiple user accounts on my system (all for myself; I did this on Windows too) and what I appreciate about Linux is that I can duplicate configuration files instead of having to navigate through UIs again and click a ton of options (perhaps following notes on what to click; I never descended to the AutoHotKey level of madness, though).