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I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch. Show me the ATProto server that can integrate with BlueSky.
by nekusar 3mo ago
I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch.
Show me the ATProto server that can integrate with BlueSky.
- master-lincoln 3mo agohere https://blog.bront.rodeo/setting-up-your-own-pds/ https://blog.bront.rodeo/setting-up-your-own-pds/
- nekusar 3mo ago[dead]
- Hoodedcrow 3mo agoThe answer here would be "there's no such thing as a generic "server" like in ActivityPub because it's split into different components, of which a PDS is only one". Honestly my main question here is "If you disagree with various ActivityPub instances' defederations, you can get around this by starting your own instance that federates with everything; is there an equivalent for bypassing Bluesky's moderation decisions?"
- master-lincoln 3mo agoUse a different appview, not bluesky. Or have your own appView. That is the design of ATProto as far as I understood.
- madeofpalk 3mo ago> I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch. Can you? The same Glitch that shut down last year? https://blog.glitch.com/post/goodbye-glitch https://blog.glitch.com/post/goodbye-glitch Regardless, ActivityPub and ATProto have different designs and goals. Your question is akin to comparing a helicopter and an airplane. There's no such thing as a "ATProto server". How complicated it is, and the trade-offs it made are valid criticisms of it. It all depends on what exactly your goal is as a participant of a distributed social network.
- inigyou 3mo agoWhat does ATProto run on, if not servers? Is it fully decentralised mesh P2P that runs on phones?
- madeofpalk 3mo agoWhat makes up the ATProto is more than one type of server. Compared to ActivityPub where you just run a single Mastodon instance and you're set. If the thing you want to own is your identity and data, you can fairly easy run a PDS yourself. If the thing you care about is different moderation decisions, you can run your own labeller (moderation system) or subscribe to another someone else has made.
- anentropic 3mo agoThere's not one server instance type, there are different components to it To 'own your data' you just need a PDS, which should be cheaper to run than an ActivityPub server To build an app you need some of the more expensive parts
- riffraff 3mo agoNever used it, but I've seen some praise for Snac as an easy to deploy activitypub server https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2 https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2
- well_ackshually 3mo ago[flagged]
- kyle-rb 3mo agoWell actually, that's not what an AppView is for. If you just want to post messages on your website that get syndicated to BlueSky (as blog post links or full threads or whatever) you could have your website server make API calls to your PDS (whether that's self-hosted or not). If you're talking about building your own custom BlueSky app, "AppView" is not synonymous with "viewer app"; basically it's an "AppView" because it provides a "view" of the network necessary to power an end user "app". I.e. it holds a copy of every single post, repost, and like, so you don't have to. Your custom app would simply make requests to the logged-in user's PDS, which routes most of those requests to that user's preferred AppView.
- spankalee 3mo agoThere is no "AT Proto server" - https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/ https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/
- fsflover 3mo agoWhich is a misleading message, according to the recent HN discussion, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48599515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48599515.
- johnecheck 3mo agoIs there a relevant recent HN discussion or is this comment just in bad faith?
- fsflover 3mo agoSorry, I fixed the link.
- spankalee 3mo agoI don't think it's misleading at all, the comment you're looking to is. People really do ask where "The AT Proto server is" as evidenced by this thread, and the really is no "AT Proto server" or "instance". AT Proto and BlueSky are a collection of services with no 1-1 relationship to a Mastodon or RSS server. There's absolutely nothing misleading about that.
- fsflover 3mo agoThe misleading thing is that people asking do not care about the exact construction of ATProto. They ask whether they can self-host and control everything and still interact with the main network.
- jimmydoe 3mo agoIs run your own pds good enough? Or you want your own view?