3 ms·

Ah yes, remember how back in the day people spent about 6-8 hours reading the newspaper. /s

acessoproibido 3mo ago
You have a point but as a kid I would definitely spend that much time reading (mostly novels but also newspapers). I was definitely not present or available when reading. I think this is all a very complex topic and the desire to find a clearcut simple answer is more damaging than helpful
- ElevenLathe 3mo ago
  Between the morning/evening news, a sports game or TV movie, reading the newspaper, and a bit of novel reading, my parents in the 90s were just as physically-available-but-in-their-own-world as somebody scrolling TikTok for 4-5 hours a day. I think the difference is that reading the newspaper isn't literally a dopamine-fueled addiction and turning the page in a novel isn't the psychological equivalent of pulling a slot machine lever. We have lots of evidence about how harmful it is to have parents that are in the throes of gambling addiction. Folks, it's not good for the children. It's in fact pretty bad, even if they don't gamble away the home equity and the college fund.
  - calvinmorrison 3mo ago
    > turning the page in a novel isn't the psychological equivalent of pulling a slot machine lever. Tom Clancy begs to differ. Paperbacks are always exciting
jappgar 3mo ago
The losers spending 8hrs of free time on their phone were just watching TV before all this. Bad parents are not a novel invention.
Fire-Dragon-DoL 3mo ago
They watched the news. I just came back from holidays in Italy from my family, and they would watch the news from 3 different channel the entire meal. The meal lasted 2 hours each time. (That's 4 hours per day, equivalent to doomscrolling) And yeah the excuse to "stay with the family" is still there, except me and my wife refused to force our kids on the table: the kids will stay at the table if you talk with them, otherwise it's your (grandparents) fault

You have a point but as a kid I would definitely spend that much time reading (mostly novels but also newspapers). I was definitely not present or available when reading. I think this is all a very complex topic and the desire to find a clearcut simple answer is more damaging than helpful

ElevenLathe 3mo ago
Between the morning/evening news, a sports game or TV movie, reading the newspaper, and a bit of novel reading, my parents in the 90s were just as physically-available-but-in-their-own-world as somebody scrolling TikTok for 4-5 hours a day. I think the difference is that reading the newspaper isn't literally a dopamine-fueled addiction and turning the page in a novel isn't the psychological equivalent of pulling a slot machine lever. We have lots of evidence about how harmful it is to have parents that are in the throes of gambling addiction. Folks, it's not good for the children. It's in fact pretty bad, even if they don't gamble away the home equity and the college fund.
- calvinmorrison 3mo ago
  > turning the page in a novel isn't the psychological equivalent of pulling a slot machine lever. Tom Clancy begs to differ. Paperbacks are always exciting

jappgar 3mo ago

The losers spending 8hrs of free time on their phone were just watching TV before all this. Bad parents are not a novel invention.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3mo ago

They watched the news. I just came back from holidays in Italy from my family, and they would watch the news from 3 different channel the entire meal. The meal lasted 2 hours each time. (That's 4 hours per day, equivalent to doomscrolling) And yeah the excuse to "stay with the family" is still there, except me and my wife refused to force our kids on the table: the kids will stay at the table if you talk with them, otherwise it's your (grandparents) fault