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>Most critiques of AI are based on some combination of observed failings of the technology Most critiques of AI are based on experience with the cheapest AI av

>Most critiques of AI are based on some combination of observed failings of the technology Most critiques of AI are based on experience with the cheapest AI available a year ago, by midwits unable to recognize that AI's performance on the Putnam, IMO and bar exam makes it far smarter than they are by almost every metric that was traditionally used to measure intelligence.

bluefirebrand 3mo ago
> Most critiques of AI are based on experience with the cheapest AI available a year ago, by midwits You don't even need to use AI at all to have valid critiques of it Plenty of other people are showing its flaws daily by replacing their entire personalities with AI slop Oh it can do some impressive stuff sure. It is still bad for society
- Marha01 3mo ago
  > You don't even need to use AI at all to have valid critiques of it You cannot rationally criticize something if you have no up-to-date knowledge about it.
  - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
    The industry hype mill and it's attendant horde of touts are working overtime to make sure the dude that mows my lawn is up to date on AI, so I'm not sure how you're going to advance the argument that anyone routinely posting to the epicenter of the AI hype typhoon is some how poorly informed on the topic.
  - bluefirebrand 3mo ago
    That's like saying you can't know if a stove is hot without putting your hand on it
- lern_too_spel 3mo ago
  To make my earlier critique of your argument clearer, some applications of AI might be bad for society, but it does not follow that the tutoring application is also bad for society.
  - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
    Educational outcomes tank when computers are introduced to classrooms. It absolutely follows that AI as a tutoring application is bad for society. https://fortune.com/2026/03/14/america-math-and-reading-scores-tanked-edtech-ai-brain-rot/ https://fortune.com/2026/03/14/america-math-and-reading-scor...
    - Marha01 3mo ago
      > Educational outcomes tank when computers are introduced to classrooms. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
      - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
        Fair, but when presented with a situation where one side of an argument has evidence and the other has baseless assertions the choice is rather plain.
    - lern_too_spel 3mo ago
      It does not follow that anything produced by an electronic computational device is bad for children or society. I've personally seen computers teach children barely two years old to read.
      - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
        Anecdote < Data. Studies consistently show declines in every trackable metric associated with education when computational devices are introduced to the process. Until actual data is presented that contradicts these findings there's no grounds for rational debate.

bluefirebrand 3mo ago

> Most critiques of AI are based on experience with the cheapest AI available a year ago, by midwits You don't even need to use AI at all to have valid critiques of it Plenty of other people are showing its flaws daily by replacing their entire personalities with AI slop Oh it can do some impressive stuff sure. It is still bad for society

Marha01 3mo ago
> You don't even need to use AI at all to have valid critiques of it You cannot rationally criticize something if you have no up-to-date knowledge about it.
- forgetfreeman 3mo ago
  The industry hype mill and it's attendant horde of touts are working overtime to make sure the dude that mows my lawn is up to date on AI, so I'm not sure how you're going to advance the argument that anyone routinely posting to the epicenter of the AI hype typhoon is some how poorly informed on the topic.
- bluefirebrand 3mo ago
  That's like saying you can't know if a stove is hot without putting your hand on it
lern_too_spel 3mo ago
To make my earlier critique of your argument clearer, some applications of AI might be bad for society, but it does not follow that the tutoring application is also bad for society.
- forgetfreeman 3mo ago
  Educational outcomes tank when computers are introduced to classrooms. It absolutely follows that AI as a tutoring application is bad for society. https://fortune.com/2026/03/14/america-math-and-reading-scores-tanked-edtech-ai-brain-rot/ https://fortune.com/2026/03/14/america-math-and-reading-scor...
  - Marha01 3mo ago
    > Educational outcomes tank when computers are introduced to classrooms. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
    - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
      Fair, but when presented with a situation where one side of an argument has evidence and the other has baseless assertions the choice is rather plain.
  - lern_too_spel 3mo ago
    It does not follow that anything produced by an electronic computational device is bad for children or society. I've personally seen computers teach children barely two years old to read.
    - forgetfreeman 3mo ago
      Anecdote < Data. Studies consistently show declines in every trackable metric associated with education when computational devices are introduced to the process. Until actual data is presented that contradicts these findings there's no grounds for rational debate.