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So let me get this straight: 1) If you have the Codex desktop app installed, and you update from within the app, it replaces itself with the new chat-demoted-t

So let me get this straight: 1) If you have the Codex desktop app installed, and you update from within the app, it replaces itself with the new chat-demoted-to-an-overlay app called "ChatGPT" and renames your existing ChatGPT app to "ChatGPT Classic." 2) If you get the new ChatGPT app and replace your current app with it, you don't get a "Classic" app and there's no way to download it. 3) They really named an app "Classic." Naming your app Classic is putting a bright red sign on it that says "this app will be abandoned soon." They might as well have called it "ChatGPT Sunset." If this is all true, that is certainly...one way to do product management.

wilg 3mo ago
Presumably there are some features in the old app that will be migrated to the new app or dropped. Seems fine.
couchdb_ouchdb 3mo ago
Chat is there... it's just can't be in a full-screen anymore.
- gitgud 3mo ago
  Not allowing full screen is the most insane thing for a “chat app ported from the web”… the browser probably has a better experience now…
  - 8n4vidtmkvmk 3mo ago
    Always was better IMO. I just pinned the browser app as a desktop app and have been using it that way for many months. Works great.
  - Razengan 3mo ago
    The best way to access ChatGPT "chat" was always on ChatGPT.com via a web browser, not even the iOS app seems to have all the little things you can do on the web version. The Mac desktop ChatGPT app had weird issues like not being able to see the model being used by a chat inside a project etc. I just ended up installing ChatGPT Atlas and using that as an AI-only browser for all LLMs including Claude and Grok lol
- jostylr 3mo ago
  You can detach a specific chat window and make it any size you want.
ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
Sounds kind of ominous. I was just about to pull the trigger, and upgrade my sub, but maybe I'm better off, moving over to Claude, even though it means rebuilding my history.
exolymph 3mo ago
Lol, this has Google energy.
- airstrafer 3mo ago
  when the middle management ghouls demand that the codex and chat teams synergize at the expense of the architecture and users. lol
- Razengan 3mo ago
  I've been wary since they killed Sora
darepublic 3mo ago
I guess the smarter ai gets the dumber we have to be to compensate
unleashhale 3mo ago
Nobody in product development saw the need to leave behind a "Classic" version as a clue that this new bloated abomination is subpar?
senectus1 3mo ago
the dmg for chatgpt used to have the bundleID of com.openai.chatgpt, now the ChatGPT bundlID is com.openai.codex. the website for downloading the new chatGPT ( https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app ) has a big download button in the middle of the page that links to "https://persistent.oaistatic.com/codex-app-prod/Codex.dmg https://persistent.oaistatic.com/codex-app-prod/Codex.dmg" wtaf OpenAI... pick a freaking lane! what did you vibe code this ?

wilg 3mo ago

Presumably there are some features in the old app that will be migrated to the new app or dropped. Seems fine.

couchdb_ouchdb 3mo ago

Chat is there... it's just can't be in a full-screen anymore.

gitgud 3mo ago
Not allowing full screen is the most insane thing for a “chat app ported from the web”… the browser probably has a better experience now…
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 3mo ago
  Always was better IMO. I just pinned the browser app as a desktop app and have been using it that way for many months. Works great.
- Razengan 3mo ago
  The best way to access ChatGPT "chat" was always on ChatGPT.com via a web browser, not even the iOS app seems to have all the little things you can do on the web version. The Mac desktop ChatGPT app had weird issues like not being able to see the model being used by a chat inside a project etc. I just ended up installing ChatGPT Atlas and using that as an AI-only browser for all LLMs including Claude and Grok lol
jostylr 3mo ago
You can detach a specific chat window and make it any size you want.

ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago

Sounds kind of ominous. I was just about to pull the trigger, and upgrade my sub, but maybe I'm better off, moving over to Claude, even though it means rebuilding my history.

exolymph 3mo ago

Lol, this has Google energy.

airstrafer 3mo ago
when the middle management ghouls demand that the codex and chat teams synergize at the expense of the architecture and users. lol
Razengan 3mo ago
I've been wary since they killed Sora

darepublic 3mo ago

I guess the smarter ai gets the dumber we have to be to compensate

unleashhale 3mo ago

Nobody in product development saw the need to leave behind a "Classic" version as a clue that this new bloated abomination is subpar?

senectus1 3mo ago

the dmg for chatgpt used to have the bundleID of com.openai.chatgpt, now the ChatGPT bundlID is com.openai.codex. the website for downloading the new chatGPT ( https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app ) has a big download button in the middle of the page that links to "https://persistent.oaistatic.com/codex-app-prod/Codex.dmg https://persistent.oaistatic.com/codex-app-prod/Codex.dmg" wtaf OpenAI... pick a freaking lane! what did you vibe code this ?