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Sad, I liked that ChatGPT had a native app on macOS. I don’t understand why OpenAI and Anthropic have to rely on vending universal apps when their whole MO is c
by afruitpie 3mo ago
Sad, I liked that ChatGPT had a native app on macOS. I don’t understand why OpenAI and Anthropic have to rely on vending universal apps when their whole MO is code being dirt cheap.
- postalcoder 3mo agoSame. I don't see why they thought this was a good move.
- mysterydip 3mo agomaybe they asked chatgpt about it :)
- moomoo11 3mo agoYou’re absolutely right and your solution is actually a better implementation.
- digitaltrees 3mo agoHaha. I love the Claude speak.
- jostylr 3mo agoI asked ChatGPT about this change and my version, with knowledge of how it and I work together, certainly prefers the old one.
- fassssst 3mo agoAppKit and SwiftUI and WinUI are all meh for rendering lots of text. Chromium is quite good at it. Plus they have lots of embedded web content these days and managing webviews is a relative pain vs it all being one webview
- stogot 3mo agoWhy is a browser tool better at rendering text than native?
- fassssst 3mo agoBecause web sites have always been about rendering huge scrollable amounts of text and images
- unleashhale 3mo ago[dead]
- jazzyjackson 3mo agoBecause there is more competition to render sites in a pleasing way, switching cost is lower. The operating systems have a high switching cost, very few people will learn a new OS because the text is a little fuzzy.
- never_inline 3mo agoIt's fairly simple sans-serif text with some markdown formatting, eh?
- fassssst 3mo agoYea but rendering a book’s worth of that, with text selection and embedded web content, is not trivial with the native UI frameworks like it is with web UI.
- browningstreet 3mo agoI look forward to John Gruber’s screed on this given his recent rampages against Electron apps, and his preference for OpenAIs native macOS app (relative to Claude).
- wilg 3mo agoTechnically I think it uses something called OpenAI OWL not Electron https://openai.com/index/building-chatgpt-atlas/ https://openai.com/index/building-chatgpt-atlas/ (which they extracted from Atlas, but the new app mentions it in the about window)
- Chu4eeno 3mo agoit's just Yet Another Chromium, like everything else.
- nozzlegear 3mo agoIt's less a screed and more of a reasoned argument, in this case. The Claude app is ass, as are most electron apps compared to native.
- browningstreet 3mo agoDon’t disagree, but screed funnier. Plus it still fits, as the dictionary definition is “lengthy, often ranted” — which doesn’t preclude reasoned.