reddit was the beginning. it was seeded by the ycombinator crowd, and it was cool. then the number of users increased, and the noise was gaining on the signal

reddit was the beginning. it was seeded by the ycombinator crowd, and it was cool. then the number of users increased, and the noise was gaining on the signal. being a for-profit company, they valued new users more than civility. realizing that the writing was on the wall, pg created hacker news. it started off just like reddit, but with different priorities. it's sad that reddit has become what it has, but it's run by a company with profit motives. most of us would have probably done the same thing, had we been in their shoes.