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All roads lead to Lisp

by arikrahman 3mo ago

sph 3mo ago
What has Lisp ever done for us?
- arikrahman 3mo ago
  The aqueducts!
- vindarel 3mo ago
  Flight search (Google's ITA Software), underground planning (SISCOG), CAD software (PTC Creo et all), the Gollum face (Mirai), automation of document extraction, renewable energies resource planning (3E), project management (planisware), games (Kandria), Maxima, a faster pgloader (https://tapoueh.org/blog/2014/05/why-is-pgloader-so-much-faster/ https://tapoueh.org/blog/2014/05/why-is-pgloader-so-much-fas...), hackernews (was rewritten to SBCL: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/hacker-news-now-runs-on-top-of-common-lisp/ https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/hacker-news-now-runs-on-...), first reddit… https://lisp-screenshots.org/ https://lisp-screenshots.org/ https://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/ https://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/ also Emacs (for another dialect).
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  - sph 3mo ago
    Yeah but apart from SBCL, Viaweb, Hacker News, Emacs, Clojure, Scheme, Racket, garbage collection, macros, homoiconicity, the REPL, S-expressions, symbolic computation, what has Lisp ever done for us?
    - dang 3mo ago
      ...booleans, conditional expressions, first-class functions, lambdas, closures, eval...
      - AnimalMuppet 3mo ago
        Booleans? I think some guy named Boole might have prior art... (Yeah, OK, he didn't have a programming language...)
        dang 3mo ago
        booleans as values of course. arguably redundant since GP did say symbolic communication, but Lisp had T before Algol 60 came out
- iLemming 3mo ago
  > What has Lisp ever done for us? phanitathion, roaphs, aqueduphs, mediphine, wphine... I'm sorry. Couldn't resist - I watch Python and do Lisp. Or the other way around, sometimes. And, no, I'm not from Barthselona.
- kazinator 3mo ago
  It's acted as a road-concentrating hub to simplify logistics.
- pjmlp 3mo ago
  "We were not out to win over the Lisp programmers; we were after the C++ programmers. We managed to drag a lot of them about halfway to Lisp." - Guy Steele, Java spec co-author "35 years of Lisping at SISCOG" https://www.siscog.pt/en-us/blog/35-years-of-lisping-at-siscog-a-trip-down-memory-lane/ https://www.siscog.pt/en-us/blog/35-years-of-lisping-at-sisc... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs https://help.autodesk.com/view/OARX/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-A0E9D801-8BE9-4BF1-85E8-3807E15F3B71 https://help.autodesk.com/view/OARX/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-A0E9... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp
  - sph 3mo ago
    I respect Guy Steele immensely, but his view of Java as being halfway to Lisp is sign that he had jumped the shark by that point, and find it hard to take the rest of his work seriously.

All roads lead to Lisp

sph 3mo ago

What has Lisp ever done for us?

arikrahman 3mo ago
The aqueducts!
vindarel 3mo ago
Flight search (Google's ITA Software), underground planning (SISCOG), CAD software (PTC Creo et all), the Gollum face (Mirai), automation of document extraction, renewable energies resource planning (3E), project management (planisware), games (Kandria), Maxima, a faster pgloader (https://tapoueh.org/blog/2014/05/why-is-pgloader-so-much-faster/ https://tapoueh.org/blog/2014/05/why-is-pgloader-so-much-fas...), hackernews (was rewritten to SBCL: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/hacker-news-now-runs-on-top-of-common-lisp/ https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/hacker-news-now-runs-on-...), first reddit… https://lisp-screenshots.org/ https://lisp-screenshots.org/ https://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/ https://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/ also Emacs (for another dialect).
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- sph 3mo ago
  Yeah but apart from SBCL, Viaweb, Hacker News, Emacs, Clojure, Scheme, Racket, garbage collection, macros, homoiconicity, the REPL, S-expressions, symbolic computation, what has Lisp ever done for us?
  - dang 3mo ago
    ...booleans, conditional expressions, first-class functions, lambdas, closures, eval...
    - AnimalMuppet 3mo ago
      Booleans? I think some guy named Boole might have prior art... (Yeah, OK, he didn't have a programming language...)
      - dang 3mo ago
        booleans as values of course. arguably redundant since GP did say symbolic communication, but Lisp had T before Algol 60 came out
iLemming 3mo ago
> What has Lisp ever done for us? phanitathion, roaphs, aqueduphs, mediphine, wphine... I'm sorry. Couldn't resist - I watch Python and do Lisp. Or the other way around, sometimes. And, no, I'm not from Barthselona.
kazinator 3mo ago
It's acted as a road-concentrating hub to simplify logistics.
pjmlp 3mo ago
"We were not out to win over the Lisp programmers; we were after the C++ programmers. We managed to drag a lot of them about halfway to Lisp." - Guy Steele, Java spec co-author "35 years of Lisping at SISCOG" https://www.siscog.pt/en-us/blog/35-years-of-lisping-at-siscog-a-trip-down-memory-lane/ https://www.siscog.pt/en-us/blog/35-years-of-lisping-at-sisc... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs https://help.autodesk.com/view/OARX/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-A0E9D801-8BE9-4BF1-85E8-3807E15F3B71 https://help.autodesk.com/view/OARX/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-A0E9... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp
- sph 3mo ago
  I respect Guy Steele immensely, but his view of Java as being halfway to Lisp is sign that he had jumped the shark by that point, and find it hard to take the rest of his work seriously.