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> In our interviews with users, a common theme that’s emerged is a desire to better understand how, exactly, AI can be integrated into daily life. I don't wan

> In our interviews with users, a common theme that’s emerged is a desire to better understand how, exactly, AI can be integrated into daily life. I don't want to integrate AI into daily life.

tyleo 4mo ago
Meh, I have it integrated as a replacement for search engines at this point. I don’t even know that Claude is inherently better or if it’s more the lack of ads.
- Insanity 4mo ago
  I did this but have (partly) reverted. I don't always want to read a wall of text that an AI regurgitates for search. The google AI snippet (1 short para) does seem better than the typical ChatGPT response.
- pavel_lishin 4mo ago
  I'd argue that it's not that Claude is better, but that Google has gotten worse.
- WolfeReader 4mo ago
  Search engines without ads exist. Try noai.duckduckgo.com. Decent search results, actual sources, no risk of hallucination, no extreme energy cost.
  - chrisweekly 4mo ago
    Kagi is an even better option, IME.
- passivegains 4mo ago
  I don't know why this sentiment isn't more common. LLMs are basically two things: 1. chatbots 2. automation for the process of googling something and copy-pasting the first result. The only people I know who use it for more than those two things ask them to perform tasks they can't do reliably, don't check the output, and then they're just wrong most of the time. If they had just used it as slightly different google search they'd have been fine.
- jerf 4mo ago
  When I have a good idea that I can hit what I want in a single query, I still use search engines directly a lot. But I have found AI is pretty decent at automating the process of making a vague search, picking up from the search better search terms, then making a couple of other wrong searches, then refining down to what I really want and potentially pulling together an answer from multiple sources. I know how to do all that, but the AI can do in a minute what may take me 15 minutes. I'd say I also know I can still do it, but... as the search engines deteriorate it is getting somewhat harder to do this by hand than it used to be. I still do this by hand sometimes for cases where I want the exploration of a topic for myself, rather than a focused answer where I don't really care about what I learn along the way, and it's getting harder. I don't know that it'll converge at "zero value" but the search result pages seem like they're just... harder to use for this than they used to be, though it's hard to put my finger on how.
s3r3nity 4mo ago
Then…don’t? You are free to not do so, while others (like myself) can choose the opposite.
- sumeno 4mo ago
  Tell that to our employers
  - pc86 4mo ago
    Using AI for specific tasks at work is definitionally not "integrating AI into your life." You might use a badge to open a door at work but that doesn't mean your integrating badge-door access control systems into your daily life. It's a tool that you only use at work.
asd88 4mo ago
To be fair, the article doesn’t quite deliver on this promise. The examples are mostly focused on improving work-related workflows, so I guess that’s what they think “daily life” is.
- pc86 4mo ago
  To most of the people working on these AI systems I'm willing to bet work in 90% of their waking life or more.
  - skeledrew 4mo ago
    If someone is doing something like that for 90%+ of their waking life it means it's not work; it's an enjoyable pastime for which they're being paid well.
InTheArena 4mo ago
Then this isn’t for you. That’s fine.
nDRDY 4mo ago
>how, exactly, AI can be integrated into daily life. Aka "what is it good for?"
AlienRobot 4mo ago
"Cool product you have there... but what is it for?"

> In our interviews with users, a common theme that’s emerged is a desire to better understand how, exactly, AI can be integrated into daily life. I don't want to integrate AI into daily life.

tyleo 4mo ago

Meh, I have it integrated as a replacement for search engines at this point. I don’t even know that Claude is inherently better or if it’s more the lack of ads.

Insanity 4mo ago
I did this but have (partly) reverted. I don't always want to read a wall of text that an AI regurgitates for search. The google AI snippet (1 short para) does seem better than the typical ChatGPT response.
pavel_lishin 4mo ago
I'd argue that it's not that Claude is better, but that Google has gotten worse.
WolfeReader 4mo ago
Search engines without ads exist. Try noai.duckduckgo.com. Decent search results, actual sources, no risk of hallucination, no extreme energy cost.
- chrisweekly 4mo ago
  Kagi is an even better option, IME.
passivegains 4mo ago
I don't know why this sentiment isn't more common. LLMs are basically two things: 1. chatbots 2. automation for the process of googling something and copy-pasting the first result. The only people I know who use it for more than those two things ask them to perform tasks they can't do reliably, don't check the output, and then they're just wrong most of the time. If they had just used it as slightly different google search they'd have been fine.
jerf 4mo ago
When I have a good idea that I can hit what I want in a single query, I still use search engines directly a lot. But I have found AI is pretty decent at automating the process of making a vague search, picking up from the search better search terms, then making a couple of other wrong searches, then refining down to what I really want and potentially pulling together an answer from multiple sources. I know how to do all that, but the AI can do in a minute what may take me 15 minutes. I'd say I also know I can still do it, but... as the search engines deteriorate it is getting somewhat harder to do this by hand than it used to be. I still do this by hand sometimes for cases where I want the exploration of a topic for myself, rather than a focused answer where I don't really care about what I learn along the way, and it's getting harder. I don't know that it'll converge at "zero value" but the search result pages seem like they're just... harder to use for this than they used to be, though it's hard to put my finger on how.

s3r3nity 4mo ago

Then…don’t? You are free to not do so, while others (like myself) can choose the opposite.

sumeno 4mo ago
Tell that to our employers
- pc86 4mo ago
  Using AI for specific tasks at work is definitionally not "integrating AI into your life." You might use a badge to open a door at work but that doesn't mean your integrating badge-door access control systems into your daily life. It's a tool that you only use at work.

asd88 4mo ago

To be fair, the article doesn’t quite deliver on this promise. The examples are mostly focused on improving work-related workflows, so I guess that’s what they think “daily life” is.

pc86 4mo ago
To most of the people working on these AI systems I'm willing to bet work in 90% of their waking life or more.
- skeledrew 4mo ago
  If someone is doing something like that for 90%+ of their waking life it means it's not work; it's an enjoyable pastime for which they're being paid well.

InTheArena 4mo ago

Then this isn’t for you. That’s fine.

nDRDY 4mo ago

>how, exactly, AI can be integrated into daily life. Aka "what is it good for?"

AlienRobot 4mo ago

"Cool product you have there... but what is it for?"