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The pricing is insane: $1.25/$4.5 for 1M tokens, and $0.15 for cached input! https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits https://dev.meta.ai/d

The pricing is insane: $1.25/$4.5 for 1M tokens, and $0.15 for cached input! https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits

ignoramous 3mo ago
Cheaper than Qwen 3.7 Max. Second indication, after Grok 4.5 ($2 in / $6 out), that the BigLabs are feeling the GLM 5.2 heat.
- cedws 3mo ago
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fallingbananna 3mo ago
Meta isn’t right now on the radar for most folks picking models. If they have a really good model, it makes sense to subsidise it, to gain users, before they align prices with competitors.
- ycui7 3mo ago
  this is not subsidizing. this is way too expensive for a no-name model.
  - steinvakt2 3mo ago
    Depends on the quality
    - winfredJa 3mo ago
      just played around, it is pretty low quality. lower than sonnet.
ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago
This is still ridiculously expensive imagine having to pay $10 for 100 search results on Google, thats essentially what this is. I really dont see how anyone's willing spend more than $1.50 per mm output. Let alone $15-50. Does anyone actually pay for usage based billing as a consumer?
- iFire 3mo ago
  This is pretty cheap compared to anthropic opus and fable. https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing Model Base Input Tokens 5m Cache Writes 1h Cache Writes Cache Hits & Refreshes Output Tokens Claude Fable 5 $10 / MTok $12.50 / MTok $20 / MTok $1 / MTok $50 / MTok Claude Opus 4.8 $5 / MTok $6.25 / MTok $10 / MTok $0.50 / MTok $25 / MTok Note Fable costs $50 MTok and Opus 4.8 costs $25 / MTok.
- k__ 3mo ago
  Yeah, DeepSeek V4 (Flash and Pro) is below $0.004 for 1M cache hits. Even with usage based billing I'm below $1 writing code all day.
  - throwa356262 3mo ago
    What harness do you use to get that? Reasonix?
    - k__ 3mo ago
      Pi
  - ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago
    Yes, this is the only pricing that seems sustainable
  - bwfan123 3mo ago
    > I'm below $1 writing code all day. same, pi as a harness works best, better than claude code and open code.
mchusma 3mo ago
Yeah, this is most directly comparable to xAI Grok 4.5. In both cases, directionally "opus level intelligence for haiku prices" which is a really big deal for application developers who want to include models like this in their applications. I have been testing switching out haiku and sonnet for Grok 4.5, and may give this a try too (it is quite a bit cheaper, particularly for cached).
- Aurornis 3mo ago
  > Yeah, this is most directly comparable to xAI Grok 4.5. Grok 4.5 has a relatively high $0.50 per 1M cached input token rate, compared to $0.15 on this model. Grok 4.5 cached input costs the same as Opus 4.8 cached input, which is going to make it a lot more expensive to use for multi-turn coding than many would assume from the $2/$6 headline numbers they led with.
  - SyneRyder 3mo ago
    > ... make it a lot more expensive to use for multi-turn coding than many would assume from the $2/$6 headline numbers they led with. There's a further sting in the tail, Grok 4.5 is only $2/$6 for the first 200k of context. Go above that, and the pricing is $6 / $12 - and you're still capped at only 500k context anyway. Here's the xAI pricing on OpenRouter: https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-4.5?endpoint=0e927811-b1a8-4604-8b86-db5ce6eaa87c#providers https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-4.5?endpoint=0e927811-b1a8-4...
Aurornis 3mo ago
The cached input pricing is a good ratio. Compare with Grok 4.5 which came out at $2/$6 but then quietly charges $0.50 per 1M cached input tokens. That's as high as Opus 4.8!
Schlagbohrer 3mo ago
is that a lot or a little

The pricing is insane: $1.25/$4.5 for 1M tokens, and $0.15 for cached input! https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits

ignoramous 3mo ago

Cheaper than Qwen 3.7 Max. Second indication, after Grok 4.5 ($2 in / $6 out), that the BigLabs are feeling the GLM 5.2 heat.

cedws 3mo ago
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fallingbananna 3mo ago

Meta isn’t right now on the radar for most folks picking models. If they have a really good model, it makes sense to subsidise it, to gain users, before they align prices with competitors.

ycui7 3mo ago
this is not subsidizing. this is way too expensive for a no-name model.
- steinvakt2 3mo ago
  Depends on the quality
  - winfredJa 3mo ago
    just played around, it is pretty low quality. lower than sonnet.

ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago

This is still ridiculously expensive imagine having to pay $10 for 100 search results on Google, thats essentially what this is. I really dont see how anyone's willing spend more than $1.50 per mm output. Let alone $15-50. Does anyone actually pay for usage based billing as a consumer?

iFire 3mo ago
This is pretty cheap compared to anthropic opus and fable. https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing Model Base Input Tokens 5m Cache Writes 1h Cache Writes Cache Hits & Refreshes Output Tokens Claude Fable 5 $10 / MTok $12.50 / MTok $20 / MTok $1 / MTok $50 / MTok Claude Opus 4.8 $5 / MTok $6.25 / MTok $10 / MTok $0.50 / MTok $25 / MTok Note Fable costs $50 MTok and Opus 4.8 costs $25 / MTok.
k__ 3mo ago
Yeah, DeepSeek V4 (Flash and Pro) is below $0.004 for 1M cache hits. Even with usage based billing I'm below $1 writing code all day.
- throwa356262 3mo ago
  What harness do you use to get that? Reasonix?
  - k__ 3mo ago
    Pi
- ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago
  Yes, this is the only pricing that seems sustainable
- bwfan123 3mo ago
  > I'm below $1 writing code all day. same, pi as a harness works best, better than claude code and open code.

mchusma 3mo ago

Yeah, this is most directly comparable to xAI Grok 4.5. In both cases, directionally "opus level intelligence for haiku prices" which is a really big deal for application developers who want to include models like this in their applications. I have been testing switching out haiku and sonnet for Grok 4.5, and may give this a try too (it is quite a bit cheaper, particularly for cached).

Aurornis 3mo ago
> Yeah, this is most directly comparable to xAI Grok 4.5. Grok 4.5 has a relatively high $0.50 per 1M cached input token rate, compared to $0.15 on this model. Grok 4.5 cached input costs the same as Opus 4.8 cached input, which is going to make it a lot more expensive to use for multi-turn coding than many would assume from the $2/$6 headline numbers they led with.
- SyneRyder 3mo ago
  > ... make it a lot more expensive to use for multi-turn coding than many would assume from the $2/$6 headline numbers they led with. There's a further sting in the tail, Grok 4.5 is only $2/$6 for the first 200k of context. Go above that, and the pricing is $6 / $12 - and you're still capped at only 500k context anyway. Here's the xAI pricing on OpenRouter: https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-4.5?endpoint=0e927811-b1a8-4604-8b86-db5ce6eaa87c#providers https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-4.5?endpoint=0e927811-b1a8-4...

Aurornis 3mo ago

The cached input pricing is a good ratio. Compare with Grok 4.5 which came out at $2/$6 but then quietly charges $0.50 per 1M cached input tokens. That's as high as Opus 4.8!

Schlagbohrer 3mo ago

is that a lot or a little