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> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never

by stymaar 3mo ago

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated. Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should. Reputation is a very valuable thing, and Github has destroyed a stellar one in a few month, this is newsworthy.

jorisw 3mo ago
Except the article doesn't prove any trend
- ablob 3mo ago
  The existence and growth of the codeberg project does, however.
  - jorisw 3mo ago
    And what level of 'growth' constitutes a trend that warrants "developers are ditching GitHub" without providing any numbers at all?
  - oblio 3mo ago
    The existence of Telegram doesn't negate the fact that WhatsApp is the world's most popular instant messaging platform, and the others aren't even close. And Telegram is a lot more developed and has a much larger percentage of the global instant messenger marketshare, compared to Github vs CodeBerg.
- embedding-shape 3mo ago
  Here you have (albeit small) proof of some sort of trend: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgitea%2Cgithub%2520alternatives&date=all&geo=Worldwide https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... Still, doesn't come close to popularity of GitHub itself today (https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgitea%2Cgitlab%2Cgithub&date=all&geo=Worldwide https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit...), but I think the trend of moving away from GitHub is clear both in data and sentiment, both qualitative and quantitative.
  - jorisw 3mo ago
    If only the article used any of that. And if it did, I still don't think the headline was warranted. Also Google search trends are no evidence of adoption or migration. High chance of correlation, sure.
  - deleted 3mo ago
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  - 627467 3mo ago
    The trend i see in Google is explosion in git(hub) related searches and small blip in non-github alternatives
- bossyTeacher 3mo ago
  Stackoverflow usage didn't fall overnight either. But it has gone the way of MySpace and Oracle.
  - doginasuit 3mo ago
    Stackoverflow was still arguably the best offering at what it provided, but what it provided became obsolete. The need for a repository service is only growing. It is not clear to me that Github's service has degraded due to incompetence, it also seems possible that they are just struggling to meet demand as the source code backbone of an internet in a critical moment of evolution. I'm not sure any single provider would fare any better.
  - ternaryoperator 3mo ago
    > the way of myspcace and Oracle Oracle had record revenue in its most recent fiscal year, with record user engagement. So whatever connection you're trying to establish between its fate and that of SO or myspace is off-target, both in terms of popularity and revenue.
AznHisoka 3mo ago
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sverhagen 3mo ago
Yeah, like how developers were en-masse ditching GitHub to go to GitLab when Microsoft acquired GitHub.
- HumblyTossed 3mo ago
  It's so weird the herd behavior of developers.
  - bigfishrunning 3mo ago
    I would expect that's true in any field that moves as fast as software development. Developer A makes a move, perceives some benefit, tells developer B, who does the same thing and then tells developer C. Some of the people consider the move, weigh costs, and make an intelligent decision. Many just think "smart people are doing this, I'll do it too". I really doubt this behavior is unique to developers.
  - legacynl 3mo ago
    Is it really? Statistically I would assume that if you select a bunch of people on a certain criterium, you're going to see similarities related to that criterium among that group.
- bigfishrunning 3mo ago
  Maybe those people weren't wrong to do that...
  - illiac786 3mo ago
    I think the parent comment was sarcastic, no?
dapperdrake 3mo ago
Wow. GitHub gaining the same reputation as DNS ("it's always DNS"), printers, OSI layer 8, and PEBKAC is actually a bit of an achievement. Hat tip to Microsoft.

by stymaar 3mo ago

jorisw 3mo ago

Except the article doesn't prove any trend

ablob 3mo ago
The existence and growth of the codeberg project does, however.
- jorisw 3mo ago
  And what level of 'growth' constitutes a trend that warrants "developers are ditching GitHub" without providing any numbers at all?
- oblio 3mo ago
  The existence of Telegram doesn't negate the fact that WhatsApp is the world's most popular instant messaging platform, and the others aren't even close. And Telegram is a lot more developed and has a much larger percentage of the global instant messenger marketshare, compared to Github vs CodeBerg.
embedding-shape 3mo ago
Here you have (albeit small) proof of some sort of trend: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgitea%2Cgithub%2520alternatives&date=all&geo=Worldwide https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit... Still, doesn't come close to popularity of GitHub itself today (https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgitea%2Cgitlab%2Cgithub&date=all&geo=Worldwide https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit...), but I think the trend of moving away from GitHub is clear both in data and sentiment, both qualitative and quantitative.
- jorisw 3mo ago
  If only the article used any of that. And if it did, I still don't think the headline was warranted. Also Google search trends are no evidence of adoption or migration. High chance of correlation, sure.
- deleted 3mo ago
  [deleted]
- 627467 3mo ago
  The trend i see in Google is explosion in git(hub) related searches and small blip in non-github alternatives
bossyTeacher 3mo ago
Stackoverflow usage didn't fall overnight either. But it has gone the way of MySpace and Oracle.
- doginasuit 3mo ago
  Stackoverflow was still arguably the best offering at what it provided, but what it provided became obsolete. The need for a repository service is only growing. It is not clear to me that Github's service has degraded due to incompetence, it also seems possible that they are just struggling to meet demand as the source code backbone of an internet in a critical moment of evolution. I'm not sure any single provider would fare any better.
- ternaryoperator 3mo ago
  > the way of myspcace and Oracle Oracle had record revenue in its most recent fiscal year, with record user engagement. So whatever connection you're trying to establish between its fate and that of SO or myspace is off-target, both in terms of popularity and revenue.

AznHisoka 3mo ago

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sverhagen 3mo ago

Yeah, like how developers were en-masse ditching GitHub to go to GitLab when Microsoft acquired GitHub.

HumblyTossed 3mo ago
It's so weird the herd behavior of developers.
- bigfishrunning 3mo ago
  I would expect that's true in any field that moves as fast as software development. Developer A makes a move, perceives some benefit, tells developer B, who does the same thing and then tells developer C. Some of the people consider the move, weigh costs, and make an intelligent decision. Many just think "smart people are doing this, I'll do it too". I really doubt this behavior is unique to developers.
- legacynl 3mo ago
  Is it really? Statistically I would assume that if you select a bunch of people on a certain criterium, you're going to see similarities related to that criterium among that group.
bigfishrunning 3mo ago
Maybe those people weren't wrong to do that...
- illiac786 3mo ago
  I think the parent comment was sarcastic, no?

dapperdrake 3mo ago

Wow. GitHub gaining the same reputation as DNS ("it's always DNS"), printers, OSI layer 8, and PEBKAC is actually a bit of an achievement. Hat tip to Microsoft.