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It punishes the inflexible deep thinker, perhaps. If you can’t figure out how to use an incredibly powerful tool to your advantage, how deeply are you thinking,

by antonvs 4mo ago

It punishes the inflexible deep thinker, perhaps. If you can’t figure out how to use an incredibly powerful tool to your advantage, how deeply are you thinking, really?

frgturpwd 4mo ago
Exactly. Add it to the fact that the world was never particularly "fair" to deep thinkers, because said deep thinkers are often not prioritizing "production". It already rewarded people who could search for and ship a working solution before they understand it perfectly. The person who can only move after fully understanding the problem was at a disadvantage long before LLMs, almost everywhere outside academia.
- YeGoblynQueenne 3mo ago
  Yes, and you can see this principle clearly reflected in the large majority of all software today, which is absolute, dysfunctional, crap.
jordanb 4mo ago
Well most experienced developers I know hate it and agree it's taken all pleasure out of the work. We've spent our careers designing and building high quality software systems. But now we're told our job is to use the plagiarism box to sling slop all the time. Those who can are transitioning out of the field. This is an industry where American developers have successfully competed on quality with the rest of the world for years. We never were very cheap but we always were the best and worth our premium. Now that's being destroyed by a short-sighted industry. I'd like to just do something else and work on open source. Except I know if I contribute to open source my work will just be stolen by the plagiarism bot.
- antonvs 4mo ago
  You can read many posts here by very experienced developers who disagree. It’s possible that the experienced developers you know just aren’t that good at adapting to major changes like this.
  - jordanb 3mo ago
    Another possibility is that people are afraid to speak up when the threat is termination "Stroustrup points out that some senior developers are starting to retire because they're tired of constantly validating unpredictable AI code. " https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/bjarne-stroustrup-says-ai-generated-code-is-bloated-buggy-insecure/tldr https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/bjarne-stroustrup-...
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by antonvs 4mo ago

It punishes the inflexible deep thinker, perhaps. If you can’t figure out how to use an incredibly powerful tool to your advantage, how deeply are you thinking, really?

frgturpwd 4mo ago

Exactly. Add it to the fact that the world was never particularly "fair" to deep thinkers, because said deep thinkers are often not prioritizing "production". It already rewarded people who could search for and ship a working solution before they understand it perfectly. The person who can only move after fully understanding the problem was at a disadvantage long before LLMs, almost everywhere outside academia.

YeGoblynQueenne 3mo ago
Yes, and you can see this principle clearly reflected in the large majority of all software today, which is absolute, dysfunctional, crap.

jordanb 4mo ago

Well most experienced developers I know hate it and agree it's taken all pleasure out of the work. We've spent our careers designing and building high quality software systems. But now we're told our job is to use the plagiarism box to sling slop all the time. Those who can are transitioning out of the field. This is an industry where American developers have successfully competed on quality with the rest of the world for years. We never were very cheap but we always were the best and worth our premium. Now that's being destroyed by a short-sighted industry. I'd like to just do something else and work on open source. Except I know if I contribute to open source my work will just be stolen by the plagiarism bot.

antonvs 4mo ago
You can read many posts here by very experienced developers who disagree. It’s possible that the experienced developers you know just aren’t that good at adapting to major changes like this.
- jordanb 3mo ago
  Another possibility is that people are afraid to speak up when the threat is termination "Stroustrup points out that some senior developers are starting to retire because they're tired of constantly validating unpredictable AI code. " https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/bjarne-stroustrup-says-ai-generated-code-is-bloated-buggy-insecure/tldr https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/bjarne-stroustrup-...

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