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The owner of this LLM is sieg heiling around, openly supports extremists across the EU, actively helped Russia in its invasion of Ukraine. Someone pays for his
by atwrk 3mo ago
The owner of this LLM is sieg heiling around, openly supports extremists across the EU, actively helped Russia in its invasion of Ukraine. Someone pays for his product. What do you think, will this have political consequences or will giving this guy have no effect whatsoever?
- gadders 3mo ago[flagged]
- mschuster91 3mo ago> i.e. anyone not the far left is an extremist He literally involved himself with Tommy Robinson and Reform UK [1], as well as supported German AfD [2]. It doesn't get more far-right than that - the AfD is so far-right that even other European far-right parties such as France's RN distance themselves. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70ep8lp4jjo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70ep8lp4jjo [2] https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bundestagswahl/parteien/musk-afd-wahlkampfshow-100.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bundestagswahl/parteien/mus...
- gadders 3mo agoDude, no they're not. Tommy Robinson is a grifter, but Reform has a pretty good chance of winning the next UK general election People are realising the current omni-party centrist/centre-left politics and economics have failed utterly.
- mschuster91 3mo ago> Reform has a pretty good chance of winning the next UK general election This does not change the fact that Reform is a far-right party (and, like almost all far-right parties in the Western nations, one that has been linked to Russian corruption [1]). > People are realising the current omni-party centrist/centre-left politics and economics have failed utterly. Lol as if far-right politics are any better. Milei is running Argentinia into the ground, so is Bukele with El Salvador, and so is Trump in the US. The only ones who are somewhat of an exception is Italy with Meloni, who managed to dance on the very thin line separating far-right ideology from inevitable disaster. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6xwy015ngo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6xwy015ngo
- gadders 3mo ago"Far Right" in the sense of "The Guardian says so". And one bloke getting arrested doesn't prove the whole party is Russia-funded, despite that being the catch-all left wing excuse every time they lose an election. People in El Salvador generally seem pretty happy with a 98% reduction in the murder rate. For Argentina, it's too early to tell. We'll have to wait until the shock therapy has finished.
- krige 3mo agoAt least they made the trains run on time! /s
- strangecasts 3mo agoThis is moving the goalposts from "Elon supports far-right politicians" which was cited with sources, you're just going "well he's right to"
- gadders 3mo agoNo, I'm saying they're not far right. It's a pejorative term made up by the left to try and shift the overton window away from conservatism. They're about as "far right" as the 80's Thatcher government.
- strangecasts 3mo ago> It's a pejorative term made up by the left to try and shift the overton window away from conservatism. When and by whom? > They're about as "far right" as the 80's Thatcher government. Would you describe Thatcher passing Section 28 (which criminalized "promotion of homosexuality") as plain "conservatism" or is "far right" an appropriate descriptor in that case?
- gadders 3mo agoI think it was conservatism of its time. You can ret-con it with 2026 morality and say it was wrong, but then it was the Conservative austerity government that legalised gay marriage.
- strangecasts 3mo agoIf you don't want to concede "far right" as a term for conservatives who are fine with suppression of speech on LGBT issues - aren't you lumping everyone outside the far left together with extremists?
- bakies 3mo agoElon did the salute and the AfD has it on their ads
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- lta 3mo agoI'm genuinely flabbergasted to read this here. There's no possible comparison between Musk and Mamdani's gestures, at least from the perspective of someone who grew up in a region occupied by the Nazis during the war and had him grand parents deported. Regarding EU politician support, it's really not what you describe. The politicians he's been supporting are the ones in the rightmost spectrum of the political chessboard in each case I've witnessed. There isn't a car I've witnessed where he supported someone center right, or left. These false equivalences are dangerous.
- gadders 3mo agoThe comparison between the gestures is that neither are intended to be a literal Nazi salute and anyone who genuinely thinks either of them was has an IQ issue. And obviously he's supporting right wing causes, because they are the ones he agrees with. Reid Hoffman only supports left wing causes.
- wyre 3mo agoAbsolutely inane take. It doesn’t matter if Elon intended the nazi salute he did twice to actually be a nazi salute, he still did it.
- gadders 3mo agoSo even if you don't support nazis, just putting your arm at that angle magically turns you in to one? Is this like a spell from Harry Potter or something? Can anyone accidentally do a nazi salute?
- cdelsolar 3mo agoyou think he just "put his arm at that angle" accidentally? like it was a spell?
- gadders 3mo agoThe OP seems to think that putting your arm at that angle turns you into a nazi. I think he's been watching Father Ted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNMSTQnSyk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNMSTQnSyk
- vardump 3mo ago> actively helped Russia in its invasion of Ukraine That's the opposite. Without Musk, Russia might have succeeded back in 2022. All other communication methods failed other than Starlink, which Musk provided early on. In terms of concrete actions, Musk has been highly supportive of Ukraine. For that, Ukrainians have been very grateful to him.