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Iran, Not Trump, Is in Control of This War

38 points by Jtsummers 4mo ago

Jtsummers 4mo ago
https://archive.is/q6SQa https://archive.is/q6SQa
jazz9k 4mo ago
I suppose if getting bombed by the US, no deal, and more oil exports from the US in history, means 'in control of the war'
- dotcoma 4mo ago
  They can certainly endure it until November. Can Trump?
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 4mo ago
    Prior to the temporary blockade cessation, oil execs were saying we could hit tank/operational bottoms in mid/late July. The reprieve has probably pushed that out a few weeks, but oil supply will vanish before November.
    - dotcoma 4mo ago
      And Trump would badly lose the mid-term elections.
- enragebait 4mo ago
  Exports from the US is not a win. It’s like looting our piggybank to subsidize the deficit.
- tim-tday 4mo ago
  Bombing them won’t open the strait of Hormuz which is what trump needs. It’s a classic asymmetrical warfare situation. It takes minimal command infrastructure to keep it closed. (Iran has already been decapitated) He very much wants to open it and they can demand anything they want.
budsniffer952 4mo ago
Do people not understand that the US can level Iran tomorrow? Really?
- Jtsummers 4mo ago
  > Do people not understand that the US can level Iran tomorrow? Really? Short of using nuclear weapons, no, the US cannot "level Iran tomorrow". And the threat of nuclear weapons has become much weaker over the decades, it would be political, and potentially national, suicide to use them at this point.
- jst1fthsdys 4mo ago
  Do you not understand Iran would destroy ARAMCO, not to mention Israeli desalination and nuke sites? They've been pretty measured in their escalation strategy, they haven't gone to their "nuclear" option yet. Also, sure the US can kill lots of civilians in Tehran with a nuke. But then what does China think? What about Russia? It starts a huge shit show that will not end well for anyone on this planet.
- tim-tday 4mo ago
  Congratulations, you are one of the people who do not understand.
- tclover 4mo ago
  How is the school nowadays, is math tough?
- bubbi 4mo ago
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38 points by Jtsummers 4mo ago

https://archive.is/q6SQa https://archive.is/q6SQa

I suppose if getting bombed by the US, no deal, and more oil exports from the US in history, means 'in control of the war'

dotcoma 4mo ago
They can certainly endure it until November. Can Trump?
- 0cf8612b2e1e 4mo ago
  Prior to the temporary blockade cessation, oil execs were saying we could hit tank/operational bottoms in mid/late July. The reprieve has probably pushed that out a few weeks, but oil supply will vanish before November.
  - dotcoma 4mo ago
    And Trump would badly lose the mid-term elections.
enragebait 4mo ago
Exports from the US is not a win. It’s like looting our piggybank to subsidize the deficit.
tim-tday 4mo ago
Bombing them won’t open the strait of Hormuz which is what trump needs. It’s a classic asymmetrical warfare situation. It takes minimal command infrastructure to keep it closed. (Iran has already been decapitated) He very much wants to open it and they can demand anything they want.

budsniffer952 4mo ago

Do people not understand that the US can level Iran tomorrow? Really?

Jtsummers 4mo ago
> Do people not understand that the US can level Iran tomorrow? Really? Short of using nuclear weapons, no, the US cannot "level Iran tomorrow". And the threat of nuclear weapons has become much weaker over the decades, it would be political, and potentially national, suicide to use them at this point.
jst1fthsdys 4mo ago
Do you not understand Iran would destroy ARAMCO, not to mention Israeli desalination and nuke sites? They've been pretty measured in their escalation strategy, they haven't gone to their "nuclear" option yet. Also, sure the US can kill lots of civilians in Tehran with a nuke. But then what does China think? What about Russia? It starts a huge shit show that will not end well for anyone on this planet.
tim-tday 4mo ago
Congratulations, you are one of the people who do not understand.
tclover 4mo ago
How is the school nowadays, is math tough?
bubbi 4mo ago
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