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• throw0101d 3mo ago
  "Can you win?" "Probably not, but then my job is to celebrate and defend the wonders of British democracy. And look at this: the fact that you're interviewing me, on the Today program, because all the other parties are not standing [up candidates] says more about them than it does about me."