4 ms·
Reform UK leader 'in real trouble' against Count Binface
- jjgreen 3mo agoFull title: Nigel Farage live: Reform UK leader 'in real trouble' against Count Binface as Clacton by-election stunt flops
- steve_gh 3mo agoSo for context. Nigel Farage (Populist right wing UK politician, leader of the Reform party) has been accused of not following parliamentary rules around disclosure of donations - which are designed to ensure transparency of decision making and potential influence. Basically, he received £5M from a crypto billionaire. He claims that it was (a) a personal donation (not needing to be declared according to the rules), (b) before he was in parliament, and (c) he was not involved in politics. His opponents say that personal donation rules are meant for family members, and that while he might not have been in parliament he was President of the Reform party at the time. So the whole thing is in front of the Parliamentary Standards Ombudsman who will report to the Parliamentary Standards Committee. That committee can recommend a penalty of a suspension from parliament (which is then voted on by the House). If he is suspended for more than 10 days, then a recall petition can be launched - and if that gets more than 10% of the registered voters in the constituency (which it would), then there is a by-election to decide whether he is fit to serve. So Farage has announced that he is resigning his seat (causing a by-election), in which he will stand. he claims that he is accountable only to the voters in his constituency (Clacton). All the other major parties have announced that they will not field candidates against him, claiming he is trying to avoid / pre-empt a suspension and a recall by-election. The only other announced candidate is Count Binface - a 'joke' candidate. Interestingly, it also turns out that at least theoretically (and with a precedant from 1842) his resignation could be blocked. You cannot actually resign your parliamentary seat between elections - you can only be disqualified. And due to UK history, the main reason for disqualification is holding an appointment from the Crown (i.e. the King, not the more general sense of "the Crown" as the government). So if you want to resign your seat, you apply for one of a couple of reserved crown appointments - the usual one is Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds. That disqualifies you, and then there is a by-election. Now it turns out that these appointments are controlled by the Treasury, which is part of the Government (which of course is just the majority faction in parliament). There is a case from 1842 of the Treasury refusing to make a Crown appointment to stop a by-election. It has been suggested that parliament could vote to stop the appointment (and therefore the by-election), at least until the Parliamentary Standards Committee report has come out.
- panick21_ 3mo agoIts deeply offensive to call 'Count Binface' a joke, he a more serious and more electable candidate and a better candidate for PM then Farage. Please keep your right wing extremest views to yourself, Farage is the joke candidate.
- jjgreen 3mo agoOn election, Binface promises to build one affordable house and cap the price of a 99 ice-cream to 99p. I'm convinced.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3mo agoBinface would have my vote for his policy on Brexit alone. He is unafraid to say that "Brexit is a shitshow", and to call for "bin Brexit".
- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- danw1979 3mo ago“Bring back Ceefax” is a more fully-formed policy than anything Farage’s various parties and offshoots have ever suggested.
- foldr 3mo agoMany moderate people will respect Count Binface's stand on Ceefax, but what about this extremist nonsense about building an affordable house?
- Lio 3mo agoI think that's just grandstanding for the tabloids. He does have a sensible policy about moving the men's hand dryer in the Uxbridge Crown & Treaty. You have to give him that. And capping the price of 99s at 99p? Chef's kiss.
- jjgreen 3mo agoIf you can get access, a hilarious interview with Count Binface on BBC Radio 4's Today program at around 8.50am.
- 1317 3mo agohttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002ymyw https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002ymyw , skip to 2:54:00
- throw0101d 3mo ago"Can you win?" "Probably not, but then my job is to celebrate and defend the wonders of British democracy. And look at this: the fact that you're interviewing me, on the Today program, because all the other parties are not standing [up candidates] says more about them than it does about me."
- SahAssar 3mo agoIs it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOmzQbRT_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOmzQbRT_E
- Lio 3mo ago> What's your appeal to the people of Clacton? > Well I'm NOT Nigel Farage. > ... > <...stunned silence...> I died listening to this first time around this morning. Binface is breath of fresh air and he's going lower my taxes and raise everybody else’s, which I approve of.
- hn_throw2025 3mo agoIt’s fun and games, but you have to bear in mind that joke candidates never expect to win. It’s entirely possible that every anti-Farage voter could coalesce behind him. Upon winning, he would have his name and face be publicly known. He would attract a huge amount of (global, even) media attention. He would suddenly have a serious job with real responsibilities. And he would have the unbridled rage of everyone in the UK who has decided that 100 years of the Tory/Labour cycle has run its course and meaningful change is needed. To give an indication of the electoral weather, Reform UK has led the national opinion polls for more than a year. I’m not sure he has the balls for all that, but we will see.
- mmarq 3mo ago> Upon winning, he would have his name and face be publicly known. His name is already public, it’s on Wikipedia
- M2Ys4U 3mo agoIt wouldn't be the first time a novelty candidate has won an election. H'Angus the Monkey[0] won the Hartlepool mayoral election in 2002 and the man in the costume served three terms before the mayoralty was abolished in 2013. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%27Angus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%27Angus
- ConorSheehan1 3mo agoWe have Luke Ming Flanagan in Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_%27Ming%27_Flanagan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_%27Ming%27_Flanagan AFAIK named after the character "Ming The Merciless" Started off as a student campaigning against his landlord, and for cannabis legalisation. Now he's in European parliament!
- pseudohadamard 3mo agoIn New Zealand, Billy the Goat was elected Mayor of Whangamōmona. When he died while in office he was replaced by Tai the Poodle, who shortly afterwards survived an assassination attempt by a sheepdog.
- 3mo ago
- joshstrange 3mo agoSo The Waldo Moment [0]? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waldo_Moment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waldo_Moment
- rsynnott 3mo agoI mean, I think the problem is that the UK is post-Waldo-Moment already, tbh.
- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- throwa356262 3mo agoI dont care about UK politics, but for me Farage will always be the guy that caused Brexit, then immediately moved to France. Besides, Mick Herron believes Nigel will soon die in an accident and he has been right about Farage matters before. Binface on the other hand would for obvious reasons survive being hit on the head by 15L of paint. So he might get my vote for being the more resilient candidate.
- expedition32 3mo agoFarage is backed by US interests. Which makes the "rule Britannia" nonsense very funny. People in the Netherlands are infamously divided but they circle the wagons when a foreign country starts meddling in internal politics. England has lost all dignity.
- juliusceasar 3mo agoThat is not true. Look at Wilders and Baudet, they are basicly Israeli and Russian puppets.
- rsynnott 3mo agoThe nativist far-right is in some ways weirdly internationalist.
- ben_w 3mo ago> England has lost all dignity. That ship sailed so long ago it's in a museum.
- hdaz0017 3mo agoIf one were to stand would Farage take part in question time...? As I have some questions for him :)