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Agreed. The idea is to act as if the outcome of what you were working on was the most important thing in the world to you, but to place no value on the actual o

Agreed. The idea is to act as if the outcome of what you were working on was the most important thing in the world to you, but to place no value on the actual outcome itself.

thibauts 14y ago
I think this can be put as "enjoy the process".
jes 14y ago
So, I should work to be a great spouse (say), but not care whether I actually achieve that outcome? Why not work to achieve things of value precisely because they are of value to you?
- zaptheimpaler 14y ago
  Because you won't always achieve them. If you value the end result, it will be all the more disappointing if you fail to achieve it.
- theorique 14y ago
  Well, it's a paradox. If you are fixated on the goal, rather than being present performing the actions that will get you to the goal, you are actually less likely to reach the goal successfully. Thinking about the goal obsessively is counterproductive. Maybe "detach from the outcome" is a better word. Anchor your happiness and well-being on performing the actions within your control that you believe will take you to that outcome, and do not make that happiness and well-being conditional on reaching that outcome.
datashaman 14y ago
A similar principle in poker (which has many lessons for life in general) is that as long as you keep making the correct decisions, in the long run you will win. If you invest emotionally in the prize you will likely make the wrong decision.
- theorique 14y ago
  > A similar principle in poker (which has many lessons for life in general) is that as long as you keep making the correct decisions, in the long run you will win. If you invest emotionally in the prize you will likely make the wrong decision. Excellent point. A bad outcome realized through a correct decision making process is painful, but is still a "better" result than a good outcome realized through a flawed decision making process. When poker players go "on tilt" they start breaking their process and it shows in their long run results. There are few places where this is more on display than in high stakes poker tournaments.

Agreed. The idea is to act as if the outcome of what you were working on was the most important thing in the world to you, but to place no value on the actual outcome itself.

thibauts 14y ago

I think this can be put as "enjoy the process".

jes 14y ago

So, I should work to be a great spouse (say), but not care whether I actually achieve that outcome? Why not work to achieve things of value precisely because they are of value to you?

zaptheimpaler 14y ago
Because you won't always achieve them. If you value the end result, it will be all the more disappointing if you fail to achieve it.
theorique 14y ago
Well, it's a paradox. If you are fixated on the goal, rather than being present performing the actions that will get you to the goal, you are actually less likely to reach the goal successfully. Thinking about the goal obsessively is counterproductive. Maybe "detach from the outcome" is a better word. Anchor your happiness and well-being on performing the actions within your control that you believe will take you to that outcome, and do not make that happiness and well-being conditional on reaching that outcome.

datashaman 14y ago

A similar principle in poker (which has many lessons for life in general) is that as long as you keep making the correct decisions, in the long run you will win. If you invest emotionally in the prize you will likely make the wrong decision.

theorique 14y ago
> A similar principle in poker (which has many lessons for life in general) is that as long as you keep making the correct decisions, in the long run you will win. If you invest emotionally in the prize you will likely make the wrong decision. Excellent point. A bad outcome realized through a correct decision making process is painful, but is still a "better" result than a good outcome realized through a flawed decision making process. When poker players go "on tilt" they start breaking their process and it shows in their long run results. There are few places where this is more on display than in high stakes poker tournaments.