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The headline is wrong. The article and the headline seems to be written in a way to cause outrage by giving the impression that the EU requires cameras which sh
by mrtksn 3mo ago
The headline is wrong. The article and the headline seems to be written in a way to cause outrage by giving the impression that the EU requires cameras which should be recording your face all the time and storing/sending it to authorities or something but what the EU actually requires is "Advanced Driver Distraction Warning System" which may be implemented using cameras and no recording or transmitting is required, in fact actually recording and transmitting would be a problem with GDPR.
- DoesntMatter22 3mo agoI don't think it's misleading at all. Is it a camera that's aimed at your face? It seems like it.
- mrtksn 3mo agoNope, the laws require Advanced Driver Distraction Warning System and does not require cameras aimed at your face. Also, cameras are receivers. Nothing happens when cameras are aimed at your face, it is only significant when you are interested with the received image and it actually nothing happens, it is processed on device to see if you are tired/distracted/asleep. Here is the actual text: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_del/2023/2590/oj/eng https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_del/2023/2590/oj/eng They mention that cameras are required when testing the systems compliance but does not specify how these systems should work.
- DoesntMatter22 3mo agoYes, so it’s a camera aimed at your face. Of course it’s a receiver, I’m not sure how that is relevant
- gib444 3mo agoI remember the brief period when they told us that the self service checkout weren't recording video. Then they just said oh actually they do now and nobody battered an eye lid If the tech is put there it's just a matter of time. They can't resist
- mrtksn 3mo agoI don't know who told you that but maybe it wasn't the EU?
- tjwebbnorfolk 3mo agoThis is what we call a slippery slope
- mrtksn 3mo agoNope, that's not what we call slippery slope. This system does not require data recording or sharing, does not require cameras.
- tjwebbnorfolk 3mo agoOnce the camera is there, the temptation for future governments to use this power for more things than originally required will become irresistible. also: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+slippery+slope+mean https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+slippery+slope+mea...
- mrtksn 3mo agoThat's not slippery slope, no cameras are required. The whole outrage is based on bullshit ragebait.
- tjwebbnorfolk 3mo agoand what sensor do you propose using to make sure people appear awake and alert? a magic device that can evaluate posture, demeanor, facial expression, wakefulness, etc but somehow definitely is not a camera? yes you've read the text accurately, now it's time to use your brain and consider what it means.
- mrtksn 3mo agoIf you want to be pedantic you can choose to be pedantic about the fact that the text literally does not require a camera. If we can pass that, then let's stick with the reality and understand that processing the light that shines on CCD sensor doesn't automatically mean that it is being recorded and handed over to the police. Since we are allowed to use our brains, we can understand that recording and transmitting would require extra hardware over what's required to process the data from CCD sensor and discard it right away.