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Well yeah, that's the point. They want to enshitify cars and make driving as expensive and as annoying as possible to force people out of cars. They know they c
by thegrim33 3mo ago
Well yeah, that's the point. They want to enshitify cars and make driving as expensive and as annoying as possible to force people out of cars. They know they can't just ban cars outright, so they enshitify this little thing this year, mandate this other thing the next year, add a new tax/fee the next year, add a new restriction the next year, reduce speed limits the next year, etc., etc., all in the name of safety / "save the kids", until decades later they finally get to where they want to be.
- Forgeties79 3mo agoYou had a point until > to force people out of cars. All that stuff following is also nonsense. “They” don’t want people out of cars, the companies want that sweet sweet revenue stream from vacuuming up data. That’s all this is
- Slow_Hand 3mo agoYeah. Whenever someone starts explaining to me that "they" - meaning some vague and undefined cartel - want you to (blank) I immediately flag their reasoning as suspect until proven otherwise. More often than not it's indicative of a lack of serious critical thought. Examples include some version of "They want us to act like slaves" or "They want to control our minds". More often than not the simplest explanation is short-sighted profit motive, or institutional dysfunction, or multiple parties with conflicting motivations with no central agenda. It's far less likely to be a grand coordinated conspiracy.
- drnick1 3mo agoYou forgot the bike lanes that take up road space but nobody uses. Every socialist mayor's favorite anti-car policy.
- stackghost 3mo ago>You forgot the bike lanes that take up road space but nobody uses. Where I live (city in the PNW), bike lanes see heavy use year-round.
- TacticalCoder 3mo agoWhere I live there lots of little hills: the city is made of lots of hills. Even with electric bikes, it's really horrible to drive in the city. But you see bicycles on the bike lanes, lots of bicycles. When it's summer time and when it's not raining. Otherwise the people are all in their cars.
- shermantanktop 3mo agoWhere I live (also a city in the PNW, with a lot of hills) bike lanes see heavy use during the weekday morning commute, and pretty spotty use every other time of day, and during the weekend. Amsterdam is a different kettle of fish entirely. That's what I'd call "heavy."
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- frollogaston 3mo agoThat's the classic. City is not friendly to bikes or peds, they add bike lanes, city is not friendly to bikes peds or cars.
- unfitted2545 3mo agoCars aren't friendly to cities
- Sabinus 3mo ago"Just one more car lane bro it'll fix congestion this time I swear."
- drnick1 3mo agoYes, because removing car lanes while car usage is growing (due to demographics and urban development) it totally the right approach.
- frollogaston 3mo agoSome cities really do have enough road for the population
- stackghost 3mo agoWho is "they"? What is their motive for wanting to "force people out of cars"?
- slopinthebag 3mo agoThe “green movement” and “the environment” but mostly a desire for control. Why should people be able to own private property like cars, we should all be using government owned means of transportation in our new socialist utopia.
- wizzwizz4 3mo agoWho desires the control? Can you name a member of this nebulous conspiracy? Nobody I've spoken to about this topic has been able to.
- slopinthebag 3mo agoI don’t need to know the names of the various lawmakers, lawyers, and politicians to know that they exist and to see the effects of their work. You’re being willfully blind here.
- ryandrake 3mo ago"Trust me bro, I can't point to them but they exist" is also all the evidence we have of Aliens, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
- slopinthebag 3mo agoWhy don’t you just google ecosocialism? Read the wiki entry? Is that too difficult? Here: Elmar Altvater Ian Angus Rudolph Bahro Adam Bandt Hugo Blanco Murray Bookchin Jabari Brisport Walt Brown Paul Burkett Max Chandler-Mather Barry Commoner Jeremy Corbyn Pat Devine Jutta Ditfurth Sabrina Fernandes John Bellamy Foster Alberto Garzón André Gorz Ramachandra Guha Donna Haraway Howie Hawkins Jason Hickel Joan Herrera i Torres Naomi Klein Mark Carney Joel Kovel Dimitri Lascaris Enrique Leff Michael Löwy Caroline Lucas Andreas Malm David McReynolds Jean-Luc Mélenchon Steven Guilbeault Chico Mendes Luka Mesec George Monbiot William Morris Abdullah Öcalan James O'Connor David Orton Simon Pirani Zack Polanski Lee Rhiannon Raül Romeva Manuel Sacristán Ariel Salleh Joan Saura Pernille Skipper Jill Stein Chlöe Swarbrick Alan Thornett Peter Tatchell Alex Tyrrell Derek Wall Raymond Williams Gerrard Winstanley Avi Lewis
- LtWorf 3mo agoLol no they don't, governments still think automotive industry is great, and of course so do the owners of these industries.