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I've banned a number of books from my household as I don't want my child exposed to them. And I support banning them from the school. Children aren't adults. It

by glimshe 3mo ago

I've banned a number of books from my household as I don't want my child exposed to them. And I support banning them from the school. Children aren't adults. It's reasonable to expect that education caters to a common denominator within society. I would only have a problem if adults couldn't acquire these books.

vasco 3mo ago
To a common denominator yes but if you aim for too much breath then you miss out on a lot of good things if you ban until almost everyone is satisfied. And some fads that get popular to ban things I disagree with like when people said violent games were the reason for violence or that rock and metal music made teenagers angry or that grunge makes them kill themselves. Many times some groups latch on to some popular culture topic as the reason for X pre-existing problem of the world.
mossTechnician 3mo ago
Can you list some of these books you want removed from school libraries, along with why?
- BJones12 3mo ago
  Mein Kampf?
  - croes 3mo ago
    No, make it part of the curriculum. Read it and shown how boring and stupid it is. Demystify such nonsense
    - stronglikedan 3mo ago
      > Read it and shown how boring and stupid it is. Except it's not, or it couldn't have continued to radicalize people to this very day.
      - rsynnott 3mo ago
        ... Wait, are you claiming that people are, having not previously been exposed to Nazism, reading it, and going "well, this seems like a pretty good idea really"? I'm fairly sure that's not a thing. No-one's being radicalised by it; rather the only people who really read it are already radicalised, because, otherwise, why would you bother? There may be books which radicalise people. But I'm fairly sure Mein Kampf is not one of them.
      - croes 3mo ago
        I doubt that most owner have read it completely. Like the bible people mostly know the parts of it that fit their own agenda. And don’t underestimate the effect it has if you are forced to read a book in school from front to back and write essays about it.
      - subscribed 3mo ago
        People choose to commit atrocities in the name of the famous holy books - you either support banning them as well or concede there's something more to it.
    - quaddoggy 3mo ago
      The irony of Mein Kampf suffering the streisand effect is not lost.
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Aurornis 3mo ago
A family we know got swept up in the "banned books" movement. They repost banned book content on their Instagram and even got T-shirts with witty sayings about supporting banned books. They bought some books for their kids from a banned books list thinking they were "banned" for thought-control reasons, but opened one up to find an illustrated guide to using mobile phone apps to find partners for anonymous hook-ups and a guide to following through with it. The book clearly wasn't appropriate for their young children, so they hid it away. Now we joke that they've also banned the book.
- amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
  A lot of books are getting banned from schools because they mention gay characters or other "woke" content. Not at all the same thing.
  - suburban_strike 3mo ago
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    - amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
      It's the school librarian's job to select books. These people are trained in childhood education. Your imagination has clearly gone way off the deep end here. Reading that there are gay people doesn't turn people gay. If you think it does, that says more about you, I think. Trying to hide the existence of gay people from children leads to homophobia from the straight kids, and mental health issues from the gay kids. You are dead wrong here.
      - mangodrunk 3mo ago
        So you think parents should not have a say? Wouldn’t that be rather authoritarian to have whatever books and disregard criticism? Many librarians are activists and are choosing books that are not educational. They are actively selecting books that they agree with.
grahamburger 3mo ago
Note that children do become adults while in (high) school. It's common for book-banners to imply that they are removing books from elementary school kids when they are actually removing them from adults and almost-adults in high schools.
- glimshe 3mo ago
  Sure. The place for these adults to get books is the county/city library and not the school library. As I said, there's a certain common denominator that we need to respect when talking about public schools.

by glimshe 3mo ago

vasco 3mo ago

To a common denominator yes but if you aim for too much breath then you miss out on a lot of good things if you ban until almost everyone is satisfied. And some fads that get popular to ban things I disagree with like when people said violent games were the reason for violence or that rock and metal music made teenagers angry or that grunge makes them kill themselves. Many times some groups latch on to some popular culture topic as the reason for X pre-existing problem of the world.

mossTechnician 3mo ago

Can you list some of these books you want removed from school libraries, along with why?

BJones12 3mo ago
Mein Kampf?
- croes 3mo ago
  No, make it part of the curriculum. Read it and shown how boring and stupid it is. Demystify such nonsense
  - stronglikedan 3mo ago
    > Read it and shown how boring and stupid it is. Except it's not, or it couldn't have continued to radicalize people to this very day.
    - rsynnott 3mo ago
      ... Wait, are you claiming that people are, having not previously been exposed to Nazism, reading it, and going "well, this seems like a pretty good idea really"? I'm fairly sure that's not a thing. No-one's being radicalised by it; rather the only people who really read it are already radicalised, because, otherwise, why would you bother? There may be books which radicalise people. But I'm fairly sure Mein Kampf is not one of them.
    - croes 3mo ago
      I doubt that most owner have read it completely. Like the bible people mostly know the parts of it that fit their own agenda. And don’t underestimate the effect it has if you are forced to read a book in school from front to back and write essays about it.
    - subscribed 3mo ago
      People choose to commit atrocities in the name of the famous holy books - you either support banning them as well or concede there's something more to it.
  - quaddoggy 3mo ago
    The irony of Mein Kampf suffering the streisand effect is not lost.
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Aurornis 3mo ago

A family we know got swept up in the "banned books" movement. They repost banned book content on their Instagram and even got T-shirts with witty sayings about supporting banned books. They bought some books for their kids from a banned books list thinking they were "banned" for thought-control reasons, but opened one up to find an illustrated guide to using mobile phone apps to find partners for anonymous hook-ups and a guide to following through with it. The book clearly wasn't appropriate for their young children, so they hid it away. Now we joke that they've also banned the book.

amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
A lot of books are getting banned from schools because they mention gay characters or other "woke" content. Not at all the same thing.
- suburban_strike 3mo ago
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  - amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
    It's the school librarian's job to select books. These people are trained in childhood education. Your imagination has clearly gone way off the deep end here. Reading that there are gay people doesn't turn people gay. If you think it does, that says more about you, I think. Trying to hide the existence of gay people from children leads to homophobia from the straight kids, and mental health issues from the gay kids. You are dead wrong here.
    - mangodrunk 3mo ago
      So you think parents should not have a say? Wouldn’t that be rather authoritarian to have whatever books and disregard criticism? Many librarians are activists and are choosing books that are not educational. They are actively selecting books that they agree with.

grahamburger 3mo ago

Note that children do become adults while in (high) school. It's common for book-banners to imply that they are removing books from elementary school kids when they are actually removing them from adults and almost-adults in high schools.

glimshe 3mo ago
Sure. The place for these adults to get books is the county/city library and not the school library. As I said, there's a certain common denominator that we need to respect when talking about public schools.