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I did this for a while after seeing that video, but after some of my shorts ended up tightening into a knot that I couldn't get loose easily, I gave up on it.
by wccrawford 3mo ago
I did this for a while after seeing that video, but after some of my shorts ended up tightening into a knot that I couldn't get loose easily, I gave up on it.
I instead just use the "Ian Knot" that I use to tie my shoes. It's very quick, I already use it all the time anyhow, and it rarely goes wrong. (Sometimes, I think I end up with an end through a loop accidentally, and have to fix it.)
Learning this extra knot didn't really help much, and it definitely went wrong more than I liked.
- _factor 3mo agoYou just pull the loose string end to relieve the knot? The loop just pulls out.
- Zebfross 3mo agoI think he means that if you ever accidentally tie the knot wrong, then it can end up difficult to untie.
- wccrawford 3mo agoI don't think I tied it wrong. I think it eventually just tightened up with usage and got really hard to work with.
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- nashashmi 3mo agoIan Knots is a rabbit hole of great practical knots and shoe lacing styles.
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- argee 3mo agoIf you have round laces, Ian’s knot reliably comes undone. Ian’s secure shoelace knot is better in that case, though it’s slightly slower and trickier to do. The double Ian knot is interesting too, but it (and several other alternatives) won’t have the “pull just once to untie” mechanic.
- throw101010 3mo agoIan's knot doesn't come undone easily if you do it the right way, many people learn it incorrectly when they are young and never revisit it... but they are making Granny knots instead: https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces It's even more noticeable/frequent with round laces so that's what makes me suspect you might be a victim of this.
- argee 3mo agoYou can read about why Ian made the new knot as an improvement over secure knots specifically here. [0] But hey, maybe Ian was unknowingly tying a Granny knot instead. ;) Comparison To Other Regular Shoelace Knots It was much easier to prove that Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot is more secure than any of the regular shoelace knots. Using a pair of shoes with round, slippery laces, I tied one with my Ian Knot and the other with my Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot. Despite tying both to approximately the same average tightness, the Ian Knot came untied two or three times a week whereas the Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot never came untied. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknottech.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknottech.htm
- archon810 3mo agoIan's Knot V3_FINAL_2_R1.2.
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- teeray 3mo agoIt really depends on the cordage for this one. I have a pair of gym shorts with a flat, thin band (I think it’s nylon, it’s got some slipperiness to it), and this knot works great for it. I’ve had nothing but problems trying this one on thicker, rounded cordage with more friction involved.
- sublinear 3mo agoMy results were the exact opposite with the two different types of cordage. This is definitely a finicky knot.
- arijun 3mo agoA bit off topic, but I hate that Ian just slapped his name on a knot and people call it that. He even has a little link on there saying "Yes I'm the inventor," which, if you click on it, amounts to "trust me bro." That knot was how my father learned to tie his shoes in the 60s, so Ian must have time-traveled back after "inventing" it in '82.
- xp84 3mo agoIt never ceases to amaze me how reliably someone always appears to “well, actually” this issue whenever Ian comes up. Despite the fact that he has merely published all this info freely on the web for like 20+ years and never attempted to monopolize knot information, nor force anyone else to acknowledge him in any way. Like, if you want to, you could call it the “Ian Sucks” knot. Why care if he calls it ‘Ian Knot’? If you liked your hotdogs a certain way and you call that an “Arijun Dog,” should people be mad at you if technically it’s a style first prepared 50 years prior in Nashville by a guy named John?
- stiglitz 3mo agoI disagree- when I googled this knot I came immediately to https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknothistory.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknothistory.htm where this “Ian” fellow goes to great lengths to establish himself as the inventor. Screenshot of a davinciesque yellowed inventor’s notebook and so forth.
- andrewflnr 3mo agoThey shouldn't be mad at you at much as dismiss you. You should admit that sticking to it and trying to make other people acknowledge it is ridiculous, a joke at best. If you've "invented" some relatively simple combination of existing pieces, the only sensible and humble thing to do is acknowledge that you're probably not the first one.
- xp84 3mo agoAm I missing something here where he "tries to make" anyone do anything? Also he mentions the Ashley knot numbers, how is that not acknowledging that?
- mito88 3mo agocouldn't find the ian knot on this app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nynix.knots3d https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nynix.knot...
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- windthrown 3mo agoIt's here: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm
- m463 3mo agonot the ian secure knot?
- wccrawford 3mo agoI find that the Ian Knot almost never comes undone on its own for me. Shoes, shorts, whatever. It's been great for like a decade now. I haven't been motivated to find anything better.