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My biggest issue with touchscreen controls is that they are not ergonomic. 1. Usually they are high on the dash, higher than where conventional controls would

My biggest issue with touchscreen controls is that they are not ergonomic. 1. Usually they are high on the dash, higher than where conventional controls would be 2. You cannot rest your hand on the surrounding panel to press them, because this will cause unintentional presses on other buttons Resulting in two problems: 1. Because of the above, you must activate more muscles to steady your hand and arm in a moving car to accurately press them. This is less comfortable and leads to frustrating misclicks 2. This increases the amount of time required to use the controls, which is annoying for infotainment, but dangerous for anything safety related

ninalanyon 3mo ago
Neither of those are a problem in my 2015 Tesla Model S for the buttons that control the climate control or media player. It seems to me that many of the problems that people report related to touch controls are more to do with how they are laid out than the fact that they are touch controls.
- kube-system 3mo ago
  They're at the bottom of a portrait screen (and IIRC there's a bit of a bezel to rest your hand on), which makes it a little better. Floating screens make this harder, especially as they get larger and further from the driver Tesla has also been guilty of some particularly awful designs on later models, like requiring the driver to navigate to a submenu to turn on the wipers (which I know they changed in an update, but still should have never done to begin with)
  - ninalanyon 3mo ago
    > Tesla has also been guilty of some particularly awful designs on later models, Absolutely! They loaned me a Model 3 while my 2015 Model S 70D was having the battery replaced (just before the warranty ran out). I really disliked it despite it being considerably newer and having longer range. The big portrait screen on the old Model S being firmly embedded in the dashboard makes it much easier to use. Also part of the landscape screen on the Model 3 was obscured by my left hand on the steering wheel (UK spec right hand drive car). I was very glad to get back into my ancient Model S.

ninalanyon 3mo ago

Neither of those are a problem in my 2015 Tesla Model S for the buttons that control the climate control or media player. It seems to me that many of the problems that people report related to touch controls are more to do with how they are laid out than the fact that they are touch controls.

kube-system 3mo ago
They're at the bottom of a portrait screen (and IIRC there's a bit of a bezel to rest your hand on), which makes it a little better. Floating screens make this harder, especially as they get larger and further from the driver Tesla has also been guilty of some particularly awful designs on later models, like requiring the driver to navigate to a submenu to turn on the wipers (which I know they changed in an update, but still should have never done to begin with)
- ninalanyon 3mo ago
  > Tesla has also been guilty of some particularly awful designs on later models, Absolutely! They loaned me a Model 3 while my 2015 Model S 70D was having the battery replaced (just before the warranty ran out). I really disliked it despite it being considerably newer and having longer range. The big portrait screen on the old Model S being firmly embedded in the dashboard makes it much easier to use. Also part of the landscape screen on the Model 3 was obscured by my left hand on the steering wheel (UK spec right hand drive car). I was very glad to get back into my ancient Model S.