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But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to
by chopin 3mo ago
But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch.
It is hellish. I don't recognize the country any more in which I was born and raised.
- nearlyepic 3mo ago> But this is none of your business. The culture described extends far into things that are my business, like being able to walk around without being shot.
- chopin 3mo agoI was referring to"hey you probably shouldn’t blow your hand off”. I am not against regulations per se, I am German after all. But a sane discussion should be had how far this should go. Regulating things which are dangerous to the person taking a risk knowingly is over the top in my book.
- sdoering 3mo ago> Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. Native born German. Calling BS on that crap. I recommend reading up on "freedom from" vs. "freedom to". Explains quite a lot of differences between the European tradition of ensuring people are "free from" an potentially oppressive state vs. the US tradition of "freedom to". In each "freedom of speech" index I know, Germany fares better than the US, or Britain, or Australia. Or quite a lot of different countries tbh. RSF World Press (lower is better): - Germany 14/180 - Britain 18/180 - Australia 33/180 - USA 64/180 Freedom House (higher is better): - Germany 95/100 - Britain 92/100 - Australia 95/100 - USA 84/100 Edit: Typo
- tick_tock_tick 3mo agoNo one actually believes their BS and I doubt you actually do either. They use so many bullshit and mental gymnastics to "score" Germany well despite their appalling "free speech" laws. I think it's very fair to say anyone appealing to either of these index's isn't even attempting to argue in good faith.
- Obscurity4340 3mo agoHow did that work out for Alex Pretti, the protesting nurse that was murdered by the Feds recently?
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- Obscurity4340 3mo agoGot a source or just adding to the daily ragebait? Seems like Trump always has an explanation, and is always the aggrieved party, and only seems to lose unfair/hoax elections vs his integrous ones
- throw2927364 3mo agoIsn't carrying a gun another right?
- sensanaty 3mo agoDon't you guys foam at the mouth about the 2nd Amendment? Which one is it, does he have a right to bear arms or does he not?
- inigyou 3mo agoIn Germany you will get arrested if you publicly talk about Gaza and Israel
- cryo32 3mo agoHaving had that exact discussion with someone in Alexanderplatz right in front of the police building, nope.
- ks1723 3mo agoThis is just BS. I had and saw many public discussion also on German Marktätze on this topic, some quite heated. Nobody was arrested or removed from their job or otherwise sanctioned. But of course people were disagreeing. The right to free speech is not the right to freedom from contradiction!
- Obscurity4340 3mo agoCan you cite that please? Theres more going on with a lot pf the Gaza/Israel stuff (that im not unsympathetic to) that can blur the lines somewhat
- inigyou 3mo agohttps://www.the-berliner.com/oyoun-cultural-centre-to-close-after-berlin-cuts-funding/ https://www.the-berliner.com/oyoun-cultural-centre-to-close-...
- tpm 3mo agoThis article does not say someone was arrested because of a public talk about Gaza and Israel. A local government has cut funding to a local org because of a disagreement. Nobody was arrested.
- Obscurity4340 3mo agoOne of the problems I have with the right wing is they literally just decry anything and everything that doesnt only benefit themselves and when they get in office they do exactly the same thing with the subtext being "Tough shit, now I get to wear the Boot"
- woeirua 3mo agoI can't take these indexes seriously when Germany is about to outright ban an entire political party. The US takes the first amendment very seriously.
- danaris 3mo agoThat "political party" is the modern-day Nazis. Like, actual Nazis. If you think Nazis should be given a seat at the political table, especially in Germany, then I don't think I can take you seriously.
- chopin 3mo agoFaring better than some other country doesn't mean its good. Try calling up rt.com via a German phone network. And calling our chancellor a liar will get your house searched.
- LadyCailin 3mo agoIf you are in the same insurance pool as me (state funded or otherwise) it is at least some of my business, yes?
- tpm 3mo agoI don't know when you were born but I'm pretty sure Germany was regulation capital of the world already back then and this is just your nostalgia bias speaking (also I agree with you Germany is currently way way overregulated but also outsiders have no way to really understand the degree of overregulation). But also the US pretty much care too much when you for example try to blow your head off with drugs instead of a gun or explosives so the grass is not that green on the other side either.
- warumdarum 3mo agoThe regulation from Europe is worse. They literally use satellite pictures to check and fine farmers..
- tpm 3mo agoNo the regulation "from Europe" whatever that means is not worse, that's just the usual dumb anti-EU propaganda. If by that you perhaps mean checking EU agro subsidies against the actual size and use of declared fields, then that is not regulation, it's just checking the subsidies are not defrauded, which is a huge issue. Every farmer is free not to ask for the subsidies. But for most of the EU regs, the member country can choose how to implement them. Usually countries manage to not overburden their people with that. The German problem is homegrown.
- StefanBatory 3mo agoHN is flooded with anti-Europe sentiment recently. I don't know how much of it is Americans genuinely believing or, or if it's astroturfing.
- hylaride 3mo agoIt's truly amazing how far the propaganda against the EU (for all its legitimate faults) has gone.
- warumdarum 3mo agoI wish you would have to life one with that bureaucratic nightmare / crony employment program that you put on your fellow human. I have no stronger curse.. The eu had one job - to protect europe, from war, from statesized companies like china and get it competitive again before the innovators take itall. It has failed in all fields.
- cryo32 3mo agoDepends which side of the wall you were born on…
- chopin 3mo agoApparently, West... Edit: before 1989.
- hvb2 3mo ago> But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Assuming you haven't lived in the US I think you're severely underestimating some of the stupidity going on. So let's say your house has a thatched roof in California where it's bone dry and hot. At that point, the person lighting the fireworks will still say it's none of your business. Even if it's illegal and every year houses burn down as a result. I don't think you get how much of an 'I don't care about anyone else, because FREEDOM... Murica' mindset exists unless you've lived there
- moron4hire 3mo agoLet's say you don't live in a California. Say you live near the East coast somewhere, as 2/3rds of the country does.
- alsetmusic 3mo agoSure, but our economy stomps most East Coast states (hello, New York!) and we aren't neighbors of the confederacy.
- cucumber3732842 3mo agoYou wouldn't be allowed to have a thatched roof house in California specifically because of the fire risk. And if someone wanted to and had a bunch of reasons why it was a good thing you would turn around and be all "but the law" and point to the fire risk.
- hvb2 3mo agoFine, bad example. The point being, people light fireworks in places with extreme fire risk. And don't you dare tell them they cannot. None of your business is the kind response
- tartuffe78 3mo agoA thatched roof?
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- throwaway91827 3mo agoHave you experienced Silvesterabend (New Year's Eve) in a major German city? It feels like a warzone. In the context of fireworks specifically, this image of Germany as an over-regulated nanny state feels particularly at odds with my experience of Germany.
- rbanffy 3mo agoI am sure they had all their permits and contingencies required perfectly done and everything was executed in perfect compliance.
- MomsAVoxell 3mo agoBest fireworks show I’ve ever seen in my life was in the middle of the German ruhrgebiet, on a small hill overlooking a shallow valley full of villages, each one setting off a seemingly-infinite round of colour and sound for the hour or so, New Year’s Eve, early 2000’s… It was a panoramic display of unregulation.