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Easy fix: Allow donations, merge updates once donation pool is enough to pay for the maintainers' time.

by underdeserver 3mo ago

rasz 3mo ago
Donating to a russian company with all the sanctions in place?
- guenthert 3mo ago
  What makes it a Russian company? The team is allegedly spread across the globe, the company (Flipper Devices Inc.) is registered in DE, USA and there's a London office.
  - rasz 3mo ago
    They are registered all over the place yet somehow comply with neither UK nor EU warranty laws, and are unable to provide normal legal B2B documents in EU/UK (https://flipper.net/pages/b2b-and-tax-exemption-policy https://flipper.net/pages/b2b-and-tax-exemption-policy). Company is run by russians, for a long time they tried hard to hide the fact their servers were still in russia after they claimed to move out.
itake 3mo ago
has that ever worked, ever? I've heard people talk about this "solution" for over a decade, especially with crypto trying to justify itself, but I've never seen it successful.
- yieldcrv 3mo ago
  yeah in the crypto space there is never consensus on what a developer costs, the donation pools and bounties are priced for a passionate developer in Malaysia as there are very few speculators from the few High Cost of Living places that the builders get opportunities from, in comparison to the rest of the of the world developers all end up launching their own things and getting all the money up front in some way or another more communities burned
- gosub100 3mo ago
  I would love to contribute towards getting Bluetooth keyboards working on freebsd. They have the drivers and most of the core working, even BT mice work, but keyboards aren't there yet.
happyPersonR 3mo ago
This
rickdeckard 3mo ago
In my experience this doesn't work because people in large groups usually demand maintenance for free and donate explicitly for features they personally want. You usually end up with insufficient donations to move anything, but now gained a bunch of users who think they own the devs and complain about every change which isn't that one thing they donated for... Much easier fix: They already open-sourced everything, the official branch is sufficiently stable and feature-rich. People are free to fork and create something new, decoupled from the Flipper team and maybe even financed by donations if they want to.

Easy fix: Allow donations, merge updates once donation pool is enough to pay for the maintainers' time.

rasz 3mo ago

Donating to a russian company with all the sanctions in place?

guenthert 3mo ago
What makes it a Russian company? The team is allegedly spread across the globe, the company (Flipper Devices Inc.) is registered in DE, USA and there's a London office.
- rasz 3mo ago
  They are registered all over the place yet somehow comply with neither UK nor EU warranty laws, and are unable to provide normal legal B2B documents in EU/UK (https://flipper.net/pages/b2b-and-tax-exemption-policy https://flipper.net/pages/b2b-and-tax-exemption-policy). Company is run by russians, for a long time they tried hard to hide the fact their servers were still in russia after they claimed to move out.

itake 3mo ago

has that ever worked, ever? I've heard people talk about this "solution" for over a decade, especially with crypto trying to justify itself, but I've never seen it successful.

yieldcrv 3mo ago
yeah in the crypto space there is never consensus on what a developer costs, the donation pools and bounties are priced for a passionate developer in Malaysia as there are very few speculators from the few High Cost of Living places that the builders get opportunities from, in comparison to the rest of the of the world developers all end up launching their own things and getting all the money up front in some way or another more communities burned
gosub100 3mo ago
I would love to contribute towards getting Bluetooth keyboards working on freebsd. They have the drivers and most of the core working, even BT mice work, but keyboards aren't there yet.

happyPersonR 3mo ago

This

rickdeckard 3mo ago

In my experience this doesn't work because people in large groups usually demand maintenance for free and donate explicitly for features they personally want. You usually end up with insufficient donations to move anything, but now gained a bunch of users who think they own the devs and complain about every change which isn't that one thing they donated for... Much easier fix: They already open-sourced everything, the official branch is sufficiently stable and feature-rich. People are free to fork and create something new, decoupled from the Flipper team and maybe even financed by donations if they want to.