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Organic Maps was my go to app for a navigation app where you can fix errors yourself immediately! So much better than having to work for free on the proprietary
by eisa01 3mo ago
Organic Maps was my go to app for a navigation app where you can fix errors yourself immediately! So much better than having to work for free on the proprietary apps, and hope they accept your edits
There’s a fork from one year ago, CoMaps, that is gaining different features
E.g., I am adding CarPlay Dashboard support that you can test by joining the TestFlight
We are in great need of both more testers and some proper iOS devs (I am not). We’re racing to get scene lifecycle support by September, perfect opportunity if you like modernising old codebases!
https://www.comaps.app/ https://www.comaps.app/
https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps
- aitchnyu 3mo agoAny ones which tries to avoid realtime traffic, especially in India? Also ones which detects some shortcuts as narrow, meandering roads that will be extremely slow.
- eisa01 3mo agoThere’s actually work ongoing on live traffic support from various public sources! https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/projects/21877 https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/projects/21877
- harkdif 3mo agoThis looks really solid. It's the thing that would make me switch over. 90% of the time I know exactly where I'm going but need Google Maps to tell me what's unexpectedly in the way while I'm trying to get there.
- dexterdog 3mo agoMy problem is that more often than not the road or business name I'm trying to find us just not in the database. If I'm at home I'll try to add it but if I'm driving that is not going to happen and I'll just use something else.
- harkdif 3mo agoYeah, that's a great call-out. While I can reckon my way most places, memorizing cross streets isn't my strength. Not having at least decent recency on top of traffic makes it tough.
- zaik 3mo agoThank you for contributing! The task of mapping every street and business in the world sounds impossible, but openstreetmap.org does really well.
- ryukoposting 3mo agoI'll preface this by saying I can't speak for India. I live in the US. Use your own discretion to decide what here might apply to you. I've been using Organic Maps for almost 3 years. I lived in Chicago during this time, as well as some smaller American cities. I go back and forth between Organic Maps and GMaps depending on the situation. I've found that Organic Maps' lack of traffic data isn't a big deal for me. It doesn't always give you an accurate ETA, sure, but it isn't any worse at actually getting you to your destination. The thing with GMaps is that everyone has traffic data, so nobody has an advantage. Google's alternative routes end up equally saturated as the main routes, meaning a "dumb" maps app that always takes the main route will get you to your destination in basically the same amount of time. This is backed up by my own personal experience, and some academic research [1]. Now, when I do need an accurate ETA, I go back to GMaps. I'll also use GMaps to route to businesses sometimes, because OSM doesn't have up-to-date info about businesses throughout most of middle America. [1]: https://trid.trb.org/view/1495267 https://trid.trb.org/view/1495267
- nekusar 3mo agoI prefer Google Maps cause they'll tell you where pigs camp out. Saved me a lot of speeding tickets on the interstate.
- greentea23 3mo agoIt would be really cool to see the social situational awareness sharing feature be implemented in an open client over an open censorship resistant protocol. Because to me Google maps is just mass surveillance by the pigs even if it does happen to help you today, the long term incentive for big tech is to erode user freedom and collude with corrupt governments.
- roysting 3mo agoWaze is way better for that and where Google gets its data, but delayed it seems, because they’re both Alphabet.
- seb1204 3mo ago
- mbirth 3mo agoThere’s Magic Earth which uses OSM map data but also integrates live traffic information. Not sure whether it works in India, though. https://www.magicearth.com/ https://www.magicearth.com/
- embedding-shape 3mo agoHave they tried/are there any plans of upstreaming that somehow? While I rely on proprietary services for car navigation today, if I move to a OSM-based services next, I'd want it to be similarly structured to actual OSM, not some proprietary bolted-on-top-of-OSM startup that will disappear/enshittificate within years.
- mbirth 3mo agoMagic Earth is 10+ years old by now. Only recently they've introduced a (very reasonable, I think) Premium subscription to cover their costs. I guess the live traffic data is bound to some licenses so they can't just "upstream" that.
- ihatehn 3mo agoM.E. is closed source and some would argue somewhat enshittifying
- david-gpu 3mo agoAll these apps rely on the data provided by OpenStreetMap (OSM). It is a Wikipedia-like project where anybody can contribute edits. https://www.openstreetmap.org/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/
- hinata08 3mo agoyeah, so were LibreOffice and OpenOffice relying on the .odt format CoMaps forked out of OrganicMaps after a row about money
- roysting 3mo agoAlways the rows about some kind of BS that fragments, fractures, and defuses the efforts into pet projects instead of ever actually being a viable alternative for the majority of people to corporate offerings. The hardest thing about any effort that is two or more people is the interpersonal, coordination, consensus, and organization aspects. Everything else is easy in comparison.
- roughly 3mo ago“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty”
- jonahx 3mo agoIt makes sense. People generally want at least one of: money or decision-making power. If they have to negotiate, constantly settle, and get no money, that's a hard sell.
- dotancohen 3mo agoHow hard a sell that is depends heavily on how much that person values their time. I know people who are experts in their field, who have had their with-source Wikipedia edits reverted to incorrect or misleading information by people who have more time to argue online than they do.
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- frevib 3mo agoAny recommendations for an OSS maps app that provides tracks like Strava,l and Komoot?
- stigi 3mo agoI'm working on something that is best described as Komoot meets Mastodon. Self hostable and federated. It's pretty early, and the UX is pretty bare bones still. If you're keen on checking it out you should be able to find it in my recent Github contributions, following the link in my profile.
- la_fayette 3mo agook cool, i see there is already a similar project called wanderer, so i assume the difference would be in the planning module? thx
- stigi 3mo agoYes, I like wanderer (http://wanderer.to/ http://wanderer.to/) a lot! The difference is the planning, I'm building my tool around a collaborative use case. I'm often doing multi day bikepacking trips with my close friends. The planner supports real time collaboration, so multiple people can plan on the same route together. Also for me it's an experiment in AI driven development (which I hope won't alienate people to much).
- buu709 3mo agoDo you mean tracking your workout? If so there's Fitotrack on Android.
- rapnie 3mo agoThere is a federated application called Endurain [0] that can be self-hosted, and is compatible with Strava and Garmin Connect. Not a phone app, but a web front-end. I don't know how well that works on mobile. [0] https://docs.endurain.com/gallery/ https://docs.endurain.com/gallery/
- mgerdts 3mo ago
- atollk 3mo agoWhat do you mean by "scene lifecycle support"? In general, I like cleaning up old code bases. But I don't see how that relates to testing?
- eisa01 3mo agoWe need to do this transition, or contributors on macOS 27 won't be able to compile the app... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/UIKit/transitioning-to-the-uikit-scene-based-life-cycle https://developer.apple.com/documentation/UIKit/transitionin... Regarding testers we had a TestFlight build with non-functioning CarPlay, and it was only discovered by me (and I don't even own a car..) If you're interested in taking a look, the easiest way to get involved would be to join our Zulip instance (Slack clone): https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONTRIBUTING.md#team-messaging https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONT...
- VorpalWay 3mo agoI have used OsmAnd+ for well over 15 years by now, which also uses OSM data, just like these. And I have used JOSM on my PC to fix the OSM data myself. Does Organic maps / CoMaps offer anything OsmAnd+ doesn't for someone who uses it for car navigation (especially on back roads in the wilderness) as well as hiking? (All in the Nordic countries.) I also record tracks with it.
- IndySun 3mo agoI ditched osmand because the interface is so convoluted. Ridiculously so. Plus theres a facebook pixel in there somewhere, at least there was when I dropped it 10 years ago. CoMaps seem sincere. For Nordic/outdoors, outcomes using either osmand/comaps/etc in practice are going to be very similar.
- liotier 3mo ago> I ditched osmand because the interface is so convoluted. Ridiculously so OSMand is a cartographer's friend - it does everything and more... With all the drawbacks of doing that. CoMaps is better targeted to the needs of most people.
- IndySun 3mo ago>CoMaps is better targeted to the needs of most people. Thank you. Both use OSM. The similarities are so slight I'd be inclined to recommend a region specific map, as is our friend with norgeskart.no for those particular cases. I admit I haven't reloaded OsmAND this year, but I do every year, and delete it every year. Moreover, for me, using OSM is partly to get away from trackers, and facebook at all costs.
- birdsongs 3mo agoNot sure where in the Nordics you are, but just want to plug ut.no and norgeskart.no for really fantastic Norway navigation. Both have free apps (norgeskart has a 50kr / year subscription to support and add more features), and both are incredible for navigating trails, marked and otherwise, anywhere Norway.
- nelgaard 3mo agoComaps works for free with android auto. I did buy OsmAnd a long time ago, but have since used the OsmAnd~ and needed an OSM client for a car. I like OsmAnd because it is very powerful, but comaps is more elegant.
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- vrganj 3mo agoHas there been any discussion about moving the Android codebase to Kotlin? This seems like an interesting project to contribute a little bit to, but I can't deal with Java anymore...
- eisa01 3mo agoYes, there are some initial discussions around that! It's probably easiest to discuss in the project's Zulip: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONTRIBUTING.md#team-messaging https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONT... Switch to Kotlin: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/1984 https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/1984 Migrate to Compose: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/4298 https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/4298