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Choosing a carrier device without being on that carrier for the rest of your devices would seem to be the first mistake. Treating the carrier as anything other

Choosing a carrier device without being on that carrier for the rest of your devices would seem to be the first mistake. Treating the carrier as anything other than dumb pipe seems like the issue here. Going with the Pixel Watch LTE and then doing same custom app development might make more sense for the described use case, but I haven't explored the author's use case thoroughly.

NetMageSCW 4mo ago
How would the custom app disable the native Watch services?
ghostly_s 4mo ago
Good point, consumers should all simply develop their own apps instead of buying a product.
- DrewADesign 4mo ago
  Don’t be ridiculous. They could easily use premade products, exclusively, and avoid the inter-provider compatibility problems by deploying meshtastic nodes anywhere they expected their kids to be, and getting them certified as ham radio operators as a backup.
- 8note 4mo ago
  you only need a few llm subscriptions i suppose?
anonymars 4mo ago
So you blame the victim and also admit you haven't explored the author's use case. Very helpful
- fragmede 4mo ago
  The victim is complaining that they were hurt. I seek to empower them to not be hurt further. What are you bringing to the table? Snide comments?
  - ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
    Your "seeking to empower" looks a lot like victim blaming in this case. Maybe if you didn't claim the problem was a mistake on the part of the victim, rather than unearned mistreatment by the carrier? Or if you provided any solutions or ways to solve the problem other than, don't do the totally normal things for which you were victimized?
    - fragmede 4mo ago
      Yes I suppose my position of "Verizon is a pile of shit heads and you're an idiot for trusting them" could be been phrased better
  - 8note 4mo ago
    a clearer option is a tort, no?
  - anonymars 4mo ago
    I don't know how to fix the social contract that "the things you buy should work and not be rug-pulled" but I certainly refuse to normalize the idea that "the issue here" lies with the author and not Verizon

NetMageSCW 4mo ago

How would the custom app disable the native Watch services?

ghostly_s 4mo ago

Good point, consumers should all simply develop their own apps instead of buying a product.

DrewADesign 4mo ago
Don’t be ridiculous. They could easily use premade products, exclusively, and avoid the inter-provider compatibility problems by deploying meshtastic nodes anywhere they expected their kids to be, and getting them certified as ham radio operators as a backup.
8note 4mo ago
you only need a few llm subscriptions i suppose?

anonymars 4mo ago

So you blame the victim and also admit you haven't explored the author's use case. Very helpful

fragmede 4mo ago
The victim is complaining that they were hurt. I seek to empower them to not be hurt further. What are you bringing to the table? Snide comments?
- ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
  Your "seeking to empower" looks a lot like victim blaming in this case. Maybe if you didn't claim the problem was a mistake on the part of the victim, rather than unearned mistreatment by the carrier? Or if you provided any solutions or ways to solve the problem other than, don't do the totally normal things for which you were victimized?
  - fragmede 4mo ago
    Yes I suppose my position of "Verizon is a pile of shit heads and you're an idiot for trusting them" could be been phrased better
- 8note 4mo ago
  a clearer option is a tort, no?
- anonymars 4mo ago
  I don't know how to fix the social contract that "the things you buy should work and not be rug-pulled" but I certainly refuse to normalize the idea that "the issue here" lies with the author and not Verizon