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Funny how GearsDatapacks (https://github.com/gearsdatapacks https://github.com/gearsdatapacks) votes to delete the Odin page because it's "non-notable" yet is a

Funny how GearsDatapacks (https://github.com/gearsdatapacks https://github.com/gearsdatapacks) votes to delete the Odin page because it's "non-notable" yet is a core member of the non-notable Gleam language which shockingly has a Wikipedia page

arijun 3mo ago
But the Gleam Wikipedia page is littered with references? Including to the 2025 Stack Overflow survey page, which has gleam very high on "want to learn" but doesn't have Odin at all...
chris_wot 3mo ago
Even more incredible that someone who represents an organisation is allowed to edit the English Wikipedia under that username! Anyone else would have their account banned. But hey, don't expect consistency or fairness from the ones on the English Wikipedia.
- Gander5739 3mo ago
  GearsDatapacks appears to be a pseudonym, not an organisation.
  - chris_wot 3mo ago
    Except that didn’t stop others from being banned. But hey, admins could never be damned with accusations of consistency (or basic fairness).
    - Gander5739 3mo ago
      Such as?
cygx 3mo ago
Well, Casey Muratori argued github stars should be considered a metric of notability, and the Gleam repository has almost twice the number (21.6k vs Odin's 11k)! Jokes aside, I'm not sure Gleam belongs on Wikipedia if Odin does not...
- klibertp 3mo ago
  > I'm not sure Gleam belongs on Wikipedia if Odin does not... They both don't belong there, TBH. I'm a PL nerd and have been one for nearly 20 years. Wikipedia is the last place I would search for information about even the TIOBE Top 20 languages, let alone anything newer or more niche. The only reason new/niche languages have a Wikipedia page is for advertising - they all hope to attract new users and convey an impression of being mature enough for serious work. It's a failure of Wiki that some pages like that were not flagged and deleted quickly enough. Enthusiasts will keep creating those pages as long as there's a chance they'll fly under the radar long enough to make them hard to delete. If they put that effort into RosettaCode (also a wiki) pages, we'd be all the better for it.
- hit_piece 3mo ago
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  - PakistaniDenzel 3mo ago
    yep the group constantly going on about how "inclusive" they are are typically the least inclusive
    - AlexeyBelov 3mo ago
      No, this is not the case.
      - PakistaniDenzel 3mo ago
        This is my lived experience /s
baranul 3mo ago
If you look on the Gleam's article talk and GearsDatapacks userpage, it gives information on that person's conflict of interest. Wikipedia has various complex rules surrounding this, though this person is very clearly a core gleam team member, and should know better. Looks like competition elimination.

arijun 3mo ago

But the Gleam Wikipedia page is littered with references? Including to the 2025 Stack Overflow survey page, which has gleam very high on "want to learn" but doesn't have Odin at all...

chris_wot 3mo ago

Even more incredible that someone who represents an organisation is allowed to edit the English Wikipedia under that username! Anyone else would have their account banned. But hey, don't expect consistency or fairness from the ones on the English Wikipedia.

Gander5739 3mo ago
GearsDatapacks appears to be a pseudonym, not an organisation.
- chris_wot 3mo ago
  Except that didn’t stop others from being banned. But hey, admins could never be damned with accusations of consistency (or basic fairness).
  - Gander5739 3mo ago
    Such as?

cygx 3mo ago

Well, Casey Muratori argued github stars should be considered a metric of notability, and the Gleam repository has almost twice the number (21.6k vs Odin's 11k)! Jokes aside, I'm not sure Gleam belongs on Wikipedia if Odin does not...

klibertp 3mo ago
> I'm not sure Gleam belongs on Wikipedia if Odin does not... They both don't belong there, TBH. I'm a PL nerd and have been one for nearly 20 years. Wikipedia is the last place I would search for information about even the TIOBE Top 20 languages, let alone anything newer or more niche. The only reason new/niche languages have a Wikipedia page is for advertising - they all hope to attract new users and convey an impression of being mature enough for serious work. It's a failure of Wiki that some pages like that were not flagged and deleted quickly enough. Enthusiasts will keep creating those pages as long as there's a chance they'll fly under the radar long enough to make them hard to delete. If they put that effort into RosettaCode (also a wiki) pages, we'd be all the better for it.
hit_piece 3mo ago
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- PakistaniDenzel 3mo ago
  yep the group constantly going on about how "inclusive" they are are typically the least inclusive
  - AlexeyBelov 3mo ago
    No, this is not the case.
    - PakistaniDenzel 3mo ago
      This is my lived experience /s

baranul 3mo ago

If you look on the Gleam's article talk and GearsDatapacks userpage, it gives information on that person's conflict of interest. Wikipedia has various complex rules surrounding this, though this person is very clearly a core gleam team member, and should know better. Looks like competition elimination.