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USPS as a public entity of the US government is required to deliver mail to all addresses. I don't know all the specific details and I'm sure there's some excep

USPS as a public entity of the US government is required to deliver mail to all addresses. I don't know all the specific details and I'm sure there's some exceptions for getting service to a new location but existing locations cannot be removed. There is daily USPS service to a postbox at the bottom of the Grand Canyon that is only accessible by mule paths. I guarantee this service would either be cancelled or go up in cost to thousands of dollars per letter if USPS was privatized. The sheer size and remoteness of parts of the USA is why it's a public good. https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/ https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/

jltsiren 3mo ago
Public goods can be contracted out to private entities. And this can be done independently in each region, without having a single central contractor. EU countries privatized their postal services decades ago, because governments are not allowed to compete with private entities in the market (unless explicitly allowed by EU-wide laws). And because the idea felt good, the same privatization extended to territories outside the EU, such as Greenland.
eru 3mo ago
> There is daily USPS service to a postbox at the bottom of the Grand Canyon that is only accessible by mule paths. I guarantee this service would either be cancelled or go up in cost to thousands of dollars per letter if USPS was privatized. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does a hill billy who insists on living at the bottom of the Grand Canyon deserve a subsidy? That public money would be better spend helping poor people.
- Arrowmaster 3mo ago
  > Why does a hill billy who insists on living at the bottom of the Grand Canyon deserve a subsidy? I'm going to say this nicely once instead of the reply I really wanted to say because I'll give you the benefit of the doubt of not knowing or looking it up. Because it provides postal service to the Havasupai people living on their native land at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Would you like to take a guess as to why Supai, Arizona, the capital of the Havasupai Nation, is located at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
  - eru 3mo ago
    Eh, just give them an absolute subsidy in terms of money, if you think they deserve it.
    - s1artibartfast 3mo ago
      maybe it is cheaper to send them letters by mule?
      - eru 3mo ago
        Then they can use the money you give them to pay for the mule.
        s1artibartfast 3mo ago
        that doesnt explain why it is better to spend more money than less.

jltsiren 3mo ago

Public goods can be contracted out to private entities. And this can be done independently in each region, without having a single central contractor. EU countries privatized their postal services decades ago, because governments are not allowed to compete with private entities in the market (unless explicitly allowed by EU-wide laws). And because the idea felt good, the same privatization extended to territories outside the EU, such as Greenland.

eru 3mo ago

> There is daily USPS service to a postbox at the bottom of the Grand Canyon that is only accessible by mule paths. I guarantee this service would either be cancelled or go up in cost to thousands of dollars per letter if USPS was privatized. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does a hill billy who insists on living at the bottom of the Grand Canyon deserve a subsidy? That public money would be better spend helping poor people.

Arrowmaster 3mo ago
> Why does a hill billy who insists on living at the bottom of the Grand Canyon deserve a subsidy? I'm going to say this nicely once instead of the reply I really wanted to say because I'll give you the benefit of the doubt of not knowing or looking it up. Because it provides postal service to the Havasupai people living on their native land at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Would you like to take a guess as to why Supai, Arizona, the capital of the Havasupai Nation, is located at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
- eru 3mo ago
  Eh, just give them an absolute subsidy in terms of money, if you think they deserve it.
  - s1artibartfast 3mo ago
    maybe it is cheaper to send them letters by mule?
    - eru 3mo ago
      Then they can use the money you give them to pay for the mule.
      - s1artibartfast 3mo ago
        that doesnt explain why it is better to spend more money than less.