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I believe framing this as people being against "data centers" is missing the target. Data centers have existed for decades, ever since business started using co

by LocalH 3mo ago

I believe framing this as people being against "data centers" is missing the target. Data centers have existed for decades, ever since business started using computers. What people really have an issue with is data centers designed for AI, using far more power than prior data centers. Honestly, I think we should just ban "AI" of all forms and get it over with. Rip the bandage off before the wound underneath turns into gangrene

cosmic_cheese 3mo ago
This latest round of projects are often located within or next to communities too, where most pre-AI projects were more out of the way, increasing immediately visible impact dramatically via noise and air and water pollution.
- LocalH 3mo ago
  I've been flagging nearly every HN post that has anything to do with AI, even negative. The quicker we get "AI" out of our zeitgeist, the better. AI isn't even a solid term, the term "artificial intelligence" is almost 100 years old at this point, and the definition has changed so many times that it's a useless term. ELIZA was "AI". But it didn't have the same level of societal damage. HAL 9000 was "AI". Games have "AI" for decades. But "AI" today has been coopted by corporations who seek to lock people into their AIaaS. Local LLMs exist, and I have a few models on my computer for fun. Those models still probably used more power than I would like to be generated. But I will never, ever, ever use cloud AI to even so much as ask a question. If there is a long-term future in AI, it's in local models
  - mctt 3mo ago
    Hacker news Sans Ai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
    - _sys49152 3mo ago
      and news.ycombinator.com/active to find those flagged articles
  - _sys49152 3mo ago
    awesome so someone young like me who comes here for bleeding edge entrepreneurship and tech discussion, is getting that discussion stifled by a non-microsoft seattle fossil born in the late 60's. i bet you still drink starbucks too while flagging ai articles. why cant i engage in these discussions?
    - LocalH 3mo ago
      That's a whole lot of presumption about who I am, so much so that it deserves flagging. I'm not anywhere close to Redmond and you don't know me at all. Pro tip: I live in Tennessee. Don't worry, you get to insult that state all you want. Fuck Tennessee.
      - _sys49152 3mo ago
        local h was a nirvana precursor and im not doing a flamewar but just one or two foot tappers from them thats it.
        LocalH 3mo ago
        All of their albums are bangers Lemme guess, the only thing you've heard from them is Bound for the Floor (aka "the copacetic song") Way to attack the messenger I'm 46 by the way. So I'm not young
classified 3mo ago
> before the wound underneath turns into gangrene Too late. The vampires have tasted blood and they will not be stopped.
- LocalH 3mo ago
  So we just need to figure out what, exactly, is their garlic. We need to discover their silver dagger
  - joquarky 3mo ago
    Their reality is shaped by their enormous egos, so look for the blind spots.

by LocalH 3mo ago

cosmic_cheese 3mo ago

This latest round of projects are often located within or next to communities too, where most pre-AI projects were more out of the way, increasing immediately visible impact dramatically via noise and air and water pollution.

LocalH 3mo ago
I've been flagging nearly every HN post that has anything to do with AI, even negative. The quicker we get "AI" out of our zeitgeist, the better. AI isn't even a solid term, the term "artificial intelligence" is almost 100 years old at this point, and the definition has changed so many times that it's a useless term. ELIZA was "AI". But it didn't have the same level of societal damage. HAL 9000 was "AI". Games have "AI" for decades. But "AI" today has been coopted by corporations who seek to lock people into their AIaaS. Local LLMs exist, and I have a few models on my computer for fun. Those models still probably used more power than I would like to be generated. But I will never, ever, ever use cloud AI to even so much as ask a question. If there is a long-term future in AI, it's in local models
- mctt 3mo ago
  Hacker news Sans Ai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
  - _sys49152 3mo ago
    and news.ycombinator.com/active to find those flagged articles
- _sys49152 3mo ago
  awesome so someone young like me who comes here for bleeding edge entrepreneurship and tech discussion, is getting that discussion stifled by a non-microsoft seattle fossil born in the late 60's. i bet you still drink starbucks too while flagging ai articles. why cant i engage in these discussions?
  - LocalH 3mo ago
    That's a whole lot of presumption about who I am, so much so that it deserves flagging. I'm not anywhere close to Redmond and you don't know me at all. Pro tip: I live in Tennessee. Don't worry, you get to insult that state all you want. Fuck Tennessee.
    - _sys49152 3mo ago
      local h was a nirvana precursor and im not doing a flamewar but just one or two foot tappers from them thats it.
      - LocalH 3mo ago
        All of their albums are bangers Lemme guess, the only thing you've heard from them is Bound for the Floor (aka "the copacetic song") Way to attack the messenger I'm 46 by the way. So I'm not young

classified 3mo ago

> before the wound underneath turns into gangrene Too late. The vampires have tasted blood and they will not be stopped.

LocalH 3mo ago
So we just need to figure out what, exactly, is their garlic. We need to discover their silver dagger
- joquarky 3mo ago
  Their reality is shaped by their enormous egos, so look for the blind spots.