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Neat. However, installing ZNC on your own an Amazon EC2 micro instance is cheaper.

by klinquist 14y ago

lysol 14y ago
Yeah, this really can't compete with irssi running in screen in some datacenter. Even less configuration involved.
- zende 14y ago
  Where do you send the notifications from irssi? I run irssi in tmux on EC2 with a Colloquy push script (http://static.ssji.net/colloquy_push.pl.txt http://static.ssji.net/colloquy_push.pl.txt). Spent time trying to get it right, but Colloquy is flaky at best.
mitchellh 14y ago
Yes, it is certainly cheaper. You're paying [a very small amount] to IRCRelay for convenience and not having to worry about it. At least for my close friends, they'd rather pay $5 a month than deal with setting up an EC2 instance or VPS to do this for them.
- jspthrowaway2 14y ago
  I'm not looking to pick a fight with you, I'm just illustrating the thought process that goes into something like this (at least, mine). To help you understand your market better. - screen and irssi is a far better experience than using a bouncer. Perhaps offer that? These services, back in the day, used to be "shell providers" for this reason. - Most developers I know run their own VPS and probably wouldn't consider a service like this. - I happily pay $20/month for my Linode wherein I do this, the big reason being I can also torrent, compile, host quick Internet stuff, do development work, receive mail, etc. Administering a personal development machine is a gateway to becoming a better hacker these days, so I think you'll find that your market ends up being miscreants who have $5 to throw away on a throwaway bouncer to cause trouble.
  - klinquist 14y ago
    I personally prefer a bouncer to screen+irssi because I like Textual for OS X so much :). I definitely agree with your last point - the "irc types" also tend to the the "hacker types" these days. I think my micro instance was $54/yr, and like you mention, I can do a lot more with it.
nuclear_eclipse 14y ago
Not to mention that you can also get push notifications from ZNC to various services with my plugin/module: https://github.com/jreese/znc-push https://github.com/jreese/znc-push
- mitchellh 14y ago
  HN won't let me respond to your other comment because it is too deep or something? Anyways, my response: I'm very open to it, if it can be done in a safe way. One way to do this may be to just curate a set of ZNC modules (since there aren't tons) that are approved to be installed, such as your znc-push module. It looks like that sort of thing would provide a lot of value.

Neat. However, installing ZNC on your own an Amazon EC2 micro instance is cheaper.

lysol 14y ago

Yeah, this really can't compete with irssi running in screen in some datacenter. Even less configuration involved.

zende 14y ago
Where do you send the notifications from irssi? I run irssi in tmux on EC2 with a Colloquy push script (http://static.ssji.net/colloquy_push.pl.txt http://static.ssji.net/colloquy_push.pl.txt). Spent time trying to get it right, but Colloquy is flaky at best.

mitchellh 14y ago

Yes, it is certainly cheaper. You're paying [a very small amount] to IRCRelay for convenience and not having to worry about it. At least for my close friends, they'd rather pay $5 a month than deal with setting up an EC2 instance or VPS to do this for them.

jspthrowaway2 14y ago
I'm not looking to pick a fight with you, I'm just illustrating the thought process that goes into something like this (at least, mine). To help you understand your market better. - screen and irssi is a far better experience than using a bouncer. Perhaps offer that? These services, back in the day, used to be "shell providers" for this reason. - Most developers I know run their own VPS and probably wouldn't consider a service like this. - I happily pay $20/month for my Linode wherein I do this, the big reason being I can also torrent, compile, host quick Internet stuff, do development work, receive mail, etc. Administering a personal development machine is a gateway to becoming a better hacker these days, so I think you'll find that your market ends up being miscreants who have $5 to throw away on a throwaway bouncer to cause trouble.
- klinquist 14y ago
  I personally prefer a bouncer to screen+irssi because I like Textual for OS X so much :). I definitely agree with your last point - the "irc types" also tend to the the "hacker types" these days. I think my micro instance was $54/yr, and like you mention, I can do a lot more with it.

nuclear_eclipse 14y ago

Not to mention that you can also get push notifications from ZNC to various services with my plugin/module: https://github.com/jreese/znc-push https://github.com/jreese/znc-push

mitchellh 14y ago
HN won't let me respond to your other comment because it is too deep or something? Anyways, my response: I'm very open to it, if it can be done in a safe way. One way to do this may be to just curate a set of ZNC modules (since there aren't tons) that are approved to be installed, such as your znc-push module. It looks like that sort of thing would provide a lot of value.