3 ms·

Or they aren’t building a SaaS with React or a TUI with Typecript, which is about the only thing that LLMs have “solved”.

heresalexandria 4mo ago
They're literally doing novel research. The smartest mathematicians in the world couldn't solve Erdős' planar unit distance problem for 80 years, and OpenAI's models knocked that out a couple months ago. This stuff is moving fast, and if you aren't evaluating SoTA on at least a quarterly basis, you're going to have a bad time.
- senordevnyc 4mo ago
  I admire your efforts here, but you’re tilting against windmills with your comments here. There’s a loud contingent of AI skeptics on HN who haven’t updated their tired arguments in years. Their fervent hatred of AI is mere religious dogma at this point, not anything empirical. The upside is that we’re competing against these folks. Let them continue to stick their heads in the sand.
  - heresalexandria 4mo ago
    For sure, I appreciate your comment - this is a tough crowd, but it's their loss.
  - comfysocks 4mo ago
    Somewhere, someone may be painting an equally reductive picture of you and your position. You two are obviously smart people, but have you considered that maybe you are unconsciously being backed into a position that is just as absolutist as those you are arguing against? That you are just taking the opposite side in a binary argument where each side sees only one side of the coin?
    - senordevnyc 4mo ago
      I use these tools all day every day, and the feeble arguments against them that I’m referencing don’t match my experience from a year ago, let alone today. I rarely argue much about AI on HN anymore, it seems utterly pointless. It’s genuinely sad to me to see how many here are so blinded by rage and fear that they can’t have an honest conversation about the pros and cons of AI. Obviously not everyone, but that’s who my comment was addressing. I also wouldn’t characterize my position as absolutist or one side of a binary. Interesting that you’d assume that.
      - comfysocks 4mo ago
        Fair enough. I too use LLM coding tools all day everyday. If we’re specifically talking about the arguments in this thread, I have experienced both sides of the argument. Some use cases are more in-distribution than others. I wouldn’t dismiss either side out of hand. I see it more as a “yes, but…”
        senordevnyc 4mo ago
        I’m talking about this kind of inane bullshit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775974 Or even worse: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775860 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775860
        AlexeyBelov 4mo ago
        But you _are_ building a SaaS according to your bio.
lilbigdoot 4mo ago
Seriously I've been on a sabbatical and have no pressure to use AI. I keep trying on my compiler and for coding they flail so hard every time. I love how good they are at helping me diagnose bugs, it's so much better than scouring google like I used to hoping for some result that matches what I'm seeing. Even then, they hallucinate all the time and just say odd things that don't make sense. As soon as you ask them something obscure they just.... merp
- heresalexandria 4mo ago
  This sounds like you may be using subpar models and/or tools - have you had this experience using Codex with GPT-5.5 on at least "high" reasoning or on Claude Code using Opus 4.8 (both with ability to browse web and sufficient context for your project)?

heresalexandria 4mo ago

They're literally doing novel research. The smartest mathematicians in the world couldn't solve Erdős' planar unit distance problem for 80 years, and OpenAI's models knocked that out a couple months ago. This stuff is moving fast, and if you aren't evaluating SoTA on at least a quarterly basis, you're going to have a bad time.

senordevnyc 4mo ago
I admire your efforts here, but you’re tilting against windmills with your comments here. There’s a loud contingent of AI skeptics on HN who haven’t updated their tired arguments in years. Their fervent hatred of AI is mere religious dogma at this point, not anything empirical. The upside is that we’re competing against these folks. Let them continue to stick their heads in the sand.
- heresalexandria 4mo ago
  For sure, I appreciate your comment - this is a tough crowd, but it's their loss.
- comfysocks 4mo ago
  Somewhere, someone may be painting an equally reductive picture of you and your position. You two are obviously smart people, but have you considered that maybe you are unconsciously being backed into a position that is just as absolutist as those you are arguing against? That you are just taking the opposite side in a binary argument where each side sees only one side of the coin?
  - senordevnyc 4mo ago
    I use these tools all day every day, and the feeble arguments against them that I’m referencing don’t match my experience from a year ago, let alone today. I rarely argue much about AI on HN anymore, it seems utterly pointless. It’s genuinely sad to me to see how many here are so blinded by rage and fear that they can’t have an honest conversation about the pros and cons of AI. Obviously not everyone, but that’s who my comment was addressing. I also wouldn’t characterize my position as absolutist or one side of a binary. Interesting that you’d assume that.
    - comfysocks 4mo ago
      Fair enough. I too use LLM coding tools all day everyday. If we’re specifically talking about the arguments in this thread, I have experienced both sides of the argument. Some use cases are more in-distribution than others. I wouldn’t dismiss either side out of hand. I see it more as a “yes, but…”
      - senordevnyc 4mo ago
        I’m talking about this kind of inane bullshit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775974 Or even worse: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775860 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48775860
        AlexeyBelov 4mo ago
        But you _are_ building a SaaS according to your bio.

lilbigdoot 4mo ago

Seriously I've been on a sabbatical and have no pressure to use AI. I keep trying on my compiler and for coding they flail so hard every time. I love how good they are at helping me diagnose bugs, it's so much better than scouring google like I used to hoping for some result that matches what I'm seeing. Even then, they hallucinate all the time and just say odd things that don't make sense. As soon as you ask them something obscure they just.... merp

heresalexandria 4mo ago
This sounds like you may be using subpar models and/or tools - have you had this experience using Codex with GPT-5.5 on at least "high" reasoning or on Claude Code using Opus 4.8 (both with ability to browse web and sufficient context for your project)?