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That’s just a line. More like, “We can collect our own data”, or “We can lock them in and collect subscription fees.”
by _factor 3mo ago
That’s just a line. More like, “We can collect our own data”, or “We can lock them in and collect subscription fees.”
- grumbelbart2 3mo agoMostly the second point. They already collect and track you, even with car play. I strongly recommend this CCC talk, where they hacked a Volkswagen database that contained unfiltered, high-accuracy, timestamped locations of a large majority of electric cars from VW group. Based on that they were, for example, able to identify cars owned by members of Germany's security apparatus: where they work, where they live, where they drop off their children each morning. Who visited brothels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzoXbbth0s&t=30m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzoXbbth0s&t=30m
- bdavbdav 3mo agoThe frustrating thing is I bet they’re still tracking and collecting this when you stop paying for the tracking / telematics.
- DaSHacka 3mo agoThey do, you just then don't benefit from the service. At least, that's been confirmed to be the case with Subaru from other security researchers looking at the telematics system.
- vincnetas 3mo agogood thing that brothels are legal in germany.
- xp84 3mo agoIrrelevant - it’s still a great type of kompromat when you want to gain leverage on someone. They probably don’t want their wives to know, for instance. Same if they’re a prominent backer of religious moral values.
- lII1lIlI11ll 3mo agoJust curious, are car manufacturers required to obtain explicit consent from owners for collecting such data according to GDPR? Or German car lobby's pocket politicians were able to carve out some exception for them?
- dpkirchner 3mo agoAnd what of passengers?
- triceratops 3mo agoWhere's GDPR when you need it?